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Old 05-04-2017, 04:49 PM   #15
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We opted for the convection microwave instead of the oven. We always have a generator for boondocking so can have either A/C or microwave. Deleting the oven gave us 2 more drawers of kitchen storage!

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Old 05-04-2017, 05:21 PM   #16
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Congrats on your 2017! We have a Int signature 2014 and am really envious of the changes AS has made in these units! We have the microwave/convection oven that has been a trial to get used to. First a woman wasn't involved in the making of this unit! I have to sit on the floor to read the LED display that indicates how to operate the oven or microwave, and no one could from above, it's not just my age! My husband would love to have the gas oven, but some friends have had trouble with the lighting of that oven. I would love to have both, so you've got the best of all worlds that I can see! I would love to have the propane oven available when boondocking, but we've adjusted the meals for stove top meals. I'm also envious of the quieter AC unit. Good luck!

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Old 05-04-2017, 06:07 PM   #17
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In our shopping for a 2017 25' International we noticed that the RB's are fitted with both a gas oven and usually the convection/microwave installed above the fridge. The FB's have the convection/microwave only, in place of the gas oven. We won't be roasting the Thanksgiving turkey in the Airstream, but are both ovens usually used or is the convection/microwave sufficient for most folks?
We purchased the RB model and one of the reasons was both ovens. The other two main reasons were larger lavatory and lighter tongue weight.
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Old 05-04-2017, 06:09 PM   #18
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While the 25RB has a larger bath the shower has a shelf that extends the full width of the shower that makes standing up in the shower not as easy as the 25fb which has only a half shelf. Even that makes standing up not as comfortable if the shelf was not there or only in the corner. The wheel well is not under the shower in the 25fb so I'm not sure why the shelf takes up so much space. Do people really sit on this shelf while taking a shower?

Kelvin, we couldn't stand up where that seat is along the outboard side of our Airstream anyway, it's located under the curvature of the roof. Does make a useful seat, though. I set shower stuff there, and putting my foot up there makes it easy to wash them. After some 1300 nights in our FC 25 RB, never considered the bath seat a problem, rather an asset.

We do like the choice of cooking because sometimes we are without hookups (gas oven) sometimes with hookups (convection oven), sometimes reheat pr prepare a quick meal (microwave).
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:14 PM   #19
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Our LandYacht motorhome has the convection/microwave only. It is the first unit we have had without a gas oven, and I really miss it, but I like to bake. Our micro/conv. has just one element, on the top, and things like cakes and muffins get too brown on top before being baked through. And of course you need to run the gen. to use it while boondocking.
If you never bake, or seldom boondocks, you will be fine with the combo.
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Old 05-04-2017, 10:06 PM   #20
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Our first home , back in the late 80's, had no oven except for a microwave /convection. We got along fine. The only issue I had with it was size... it was difficult to have the right size cookware for it. My 2005 airstream has gas oven and microwave, no convection. We rarely use the oven since it's hard to light and we like outdoor camp cooking when we're camping. But if I loved to bake, or if I were traveling for months or seasons at a time, the oven would become more important.
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Old 05-05-2017, 12:25 PM   #21
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We have the convection microwave in our trailer and I so wish I had the gas oven. We are rarely hooked up so I rarely use the microwave.

If you wild camp a lot and like to cook/bake, you will likely be grateful for having a gas oven. If you will be hooked up all the time, the microwave could be fine.

I have found the microwave/convection to work okay. It is small and the oven heating is inconsistent but I can still get it to work for me most of the time.
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Old 05-05-2017, 12:31 PM   #22
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FYI a great thread with folks who use the gas oven and like it.

We could not travel without the gas oven, especially in the spring and fall.

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Old 05-05-2017, 11:24 PM   #23
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For those who have trouble lighting their gas oven I alway use one of long gadgets that you can use to light a BBQ grill. The automatic lighter has a mind of its own.
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Old 05-06-2017, 03:19 PM   #24
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I love the gas oven, we are often in parks with no electricity, at which turns the microwave into a storage area. On a cool evening, or a rainy afternoon, backing a cake will warm the cabin a little and fill the whole airstream with a great aroma, and give you hiking snacks - it all depends on your ration of dry camping to electric camping.
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Old 05-06-2017, 03:47 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by KJRitchie View Post
I'm not sure why the shelf takes up so much space. Do people really sit on this shelf while taking a shower?

Isn't that where the fish water tanks is? And the space it takes up is at the lowest part of the ceiling.
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Old 05-06-2017, 10:36 PM   #26
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I thought was a seat.
I thought is was there over the wheel/wheel well.
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Old 05-06-2017, 11:40 PM   #27
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For anyone who traded the oven for draws, pull out the top draw, as a drawer, and ensure the copper gas line to the cooktop is not being hit everytime the draw closes.
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Old 05-07-2017, 07:12 PM   #28
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We have the Conv/Microwave oven and use it all the time especially on convection. We had the originally supplied Sharp removed ( it was a piece of garbage) and replaced with a Panasonic. My wife is an excellent cook and uses it for baking cakes, muffins banana bread etc. She also uses it for roasting tomatoes and cooking beetroot casseroles. If it won't fit in the oven it goes out on the barbecue, a Weber Q3200, which we also use as an oven. We use Le Creuset pots and cast iron pans on the barbecue. This keeps the heat put of the trailer in warmer climates.

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