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Old 08-22-2007, 01:12 PM   #29
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I believe 2air is referring to the (momentary) battery disconnect switch. On most new Airstream CCDs and Safaris this is to the right of the front door (not sure for you FB owners) as you step into the trailer. It has a red LED on the switch panel.
Experience seems to indicate that this switch also controls the recharging of the batteries. We turned ours off one time and while preparing for the next trip used the lights and all three Fantastic Fans without shore power. When I went to hook up the tongue jack wouldn't work until I connected the umbilical to the truck. Then it worked. Took a little while for me to realize what had happened. After pressing the switch again and charging the batteries, lights and tongue jack worked fine for next trip.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:59 PM   #30
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Battery Disconnect Switch

When mine is in the Store position, the only thing that works is the tongue jack. With the switch in the Store position, if you plug in AC power, everything comes on as if it was in the Use position. Never tested it with just the umbilical connected.

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Old 08-22-2007, 02:12 PM   #31
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When mine is in the Store position, the only thing that works is the tongue jack. With the switch in the Store position, if you plug in AC power, everything comes on as if it was in the Use position. Never tested it with just the umbilical connected.
The switch only disconnects the batteries from the trailer interior. If you are pluged into shore power while the switch is in the Store position you will have 12 volts in the trailer because your converter will be running. However this is not a good idea as the converter will not have the battery load on it and the voltage supplied will be abnormally high possiblely shorting the live of you bulbs if on for a period of time.

The reason the tongue jack will still work while the switch is in the stored postion is they are almost always wired directly to the batteries and thus on the battery side of the switch.

As for the umbilical cord I have not tried it. Depending on where that wire is connected having the truck attached to the trailer may or may not give you 12 volts in the trailer. I suspect the umbilical cord wire is connected on the trailer side of the switch in which case having the truck plugged to the trailer you would have 12 volts in the trailer with the switch turned off. Again not a good idea as that wire is not of sufficient size to support any load, but rather just to supply charging current while on the road.
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Thanks HowieE. That's not something I usually do (and definitely won't from now on) it's just what I observed.

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Old 09-02-2007, 11:36 AM   #33
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I find many frustrated and not really informed people giving vent to what they believe. I have drive thousand s of miles with the gas on the fridge and never had any problems. In the case of turning light on and off. You might notice the when a powered switch is turned OFF. that is when the spark happens, not when it is turned ON
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:06 PM   #34
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I was an OSHA inspector for several years. Never had to investigate a trailer frig catching a gasoline pump on fire. I thought I had heard every other fool way to kill or injure your self. The easiest way to burn yourself is having greasy hands/gloves/cloth and playing with your portable oxygen cylinder.

I did see a car in Pioche, Nevada drive off with the pump and hose still attached to his car's gas spout. There is a nifty connector than breaks away, shuts it all down. You need to be more concerned with static electricity and poor seals on the pump handle than your frig being the igniting source for an explosion. I suspect that the Fire Code blankets any source for ignition, but the last time a LP Frig ignited anything should have be the LP to drive my system. Not all rules and regulations have been updated to current technology standards and are meant to be a bit "vague" to give an inspector some judgment calls when necessary. I always liked the "grounded light bulb" violations... what??
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Old 09-02-2007, 01:29 PM   #35
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Ray....your post makes me feel somewhat better!

I have never felt comfortable towing with the frig running on gas, but that is what we do. My previous TT had a 3-way frig, and that is what we will replace this one with if it ever fails.

My question is.....why doesn't Airstream go with 3-way refrigerators?
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:05 PM   #36
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Its amazing the things that dont result in accidents. Friday evening I was at a stop-n-rob when one of the customers managed to pump what had to be over 2 gallons of gas on to the pavement. One of the clerks was on the way out with some absorbent when the lady (loose use of the term) decided she was going to start the car and drive off despite the large (call it 2x6 foot) puddle of raw gasoline under her car. I couldnt belive it! I was about to yell out and suggest that she wait or at least let us push her car away from the fuel, but one look at her and you could tell she was going to do what she was going to do and the #@%% with the rest of the world. Luckily for all involved, she did not ignite the gas. But it sure raised the hair on my neck.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:37 PM   #37
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Hi Rodney,

I hope you stood back when she did.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:40 PM   #38
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Hi Rodney,

I hope you stood back when she did.
Being a former firefighter, I has a good idea of where I was going to dive, and I was putting space between the natural selection event and myself
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It is recommended that you turn it off before fueling so that the spark from the ignition (or pilot from older units) won't start a fire at gas stations while fueling. However, my tow vehicle is diesel and diesel is harder to ignite.
This was a quote from an earlier post. You may be diesel, but the guy at the next pump may be gasoline. Or as Rodney just posted, a leak from some nearby source.
I've seen too many things happen that "weren't supposed to" and the negative results when it does happen.
I keep my propane off during travel, there is too much vibration and the chance of a broken gas fitting or cut hose. Why is it so worth the chance? "Well it's never happened before" isn't a good reason IMO.
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When someone reads about an incident concerning a propane/LPG ignitor being the ignition point for a gasoline station explosion, PLEASE get it onto the Forum. Something in this century, of course.

When making OSHA work fatality investigations in the oil patch, it was ALWAYS something preventable. When you are in a situation where someone ELSE is doing something that could kill you and your family on the road as they are practicing unsafe behavior, GET FAR AWAY QUICKLY. Do not try to explain the situation to these people as you most likely will be the person injured and they drive off. Common sense is NOT common. Trust me on that.
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