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Old 08-21-2007, 03:31 PM   #15
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Cell phones are "no" danger at the gas pumps as proven on "Myth Busters" they were unable to cause a fire and busted this theroy.

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Old 08-21-2007, 03:40 PM   #16
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During my accident one of my propane tanks leaked its contents. The valve had already malfunctioned the night before. The valve was off and it still leaked all of it contents.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:46 PM   #17
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You are forgetting 2air and I both have diesel rigs. You can throw a match in diesel fuel and it will usually go out. It has to be very hot outside for significant fumes to generate to get a flash fire.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:48 PM   #18
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I think the point I make is that in the case of towing with gas on, I can guarantee you that some governmental regulatory authority would have jumped in by now if this were really an issue of consequence or fires were happening with some frequency.
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They do. Notice the signs when you go through a tunnel? Some tunnels, such as the one in Norfolk, they will actually stop you and check that they are turned off. Other than that it is legal I believe.

They did stop me in Norfolk, but what they really wanted was to look at the Motorhome. Had a friendly visit with them.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:10 PM   #19
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Yes, traveling with the freg light is a potential risk, but then again getting up in the morning is a potential risk. Individuals have to evaluate and come to terms with their individual level of risk.

Since I don't now of any governing regulation covering open road traveling with the frig lite it becomes a matter of personnel choise. I have traveled for over 40 years with my freg lite, responding to posted regulations at tunnels and ferries. I do not see any greater danger traveling than parked. A propane leak in either case could and most likely would be a deaster.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:12 PM   #20
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I have hot ( ie running) refueled helicopters, my diesel truck and tractor. I drive with the fridge ON and leave it on for refueling. The cell phone is a myth. Nuff said.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:22 PM   #21
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Not that I want in the middle of all this, but risk is clearly the issue, not only for us, but for the manufacturer as well. Here is a quote I made in a prior thread, as per my owner's manual (NorCold):

"Operation During Travel: While the refrigerator should be level when the vehicle is stopped, performance during travel is not usually effected."

So, it looks like they endorse the use/operation of the ridge during travel, and clause themselves out of liability with a 'not usually effected' statement.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:31 PM   #22
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We travel with the gas off . . . and the refrigerator ON!

When the old Dometic cafed, we replaced it with a Nova Kool 12 V refrigerator, which uses the energy efficient Dan Foss compressor.

This replacement costs about as much as the evaporative gas/110V/12v Dometics.

The Nova Kool is designed for marine usage, so it can take the pounding as well as run on a 30 degree "heeled" angle. When running, it draws about 3 amps, max 5.5 amp @ 12V. (Yes, we have solar panels as well as 300 amp hour of batteries - and we've dry camped in 90+ with no problems)

The interior space is about 20% greater than the old Dometic and has a smaller footprint. If the compressor ever fails, it can be replaced without removing the refrigerator.

The T@DA trailers also use a Norcold 12V compressor refrigerator.
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Old 08-21-2007, 04:42 PM   #23
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Why don't we add a poll to this thread?

Gas on, Refer on, when towing, unless instructed otherwise by the authorities. Always refuel at the outboard pumps with the trailer not under the canopy. That's my operation.

Gas fumes are heaver than air, so wouldn't it take a lot of fumes to get up to the level of the refer burner? Are we being too cautious?

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Old 08-21-2007, 04:52 PM   #24
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Diesel tow vehicle, Cellphone ON, Frig ON and for the most part we fill up at the diesel island. Never heard of nor have I witnessed an incident of a fueling station blowing up due to an RV frig being ON while fueling. Our trailer is always away from any pump island while fueling. I cannot think of an instance when the trailer was in close proximity to the pumps when I was fueling. The truck is long. The trailer is longer. Sure, I pull through when finished but someone would have to direct a gas pump nozzle at my frig and make a direct hit to ignite it. The diesel would just make a mess.
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No switch has to thrown inside unit for the lights to work , correct?
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the outside trailer marker lights will come on when the tow vehicle lights are turned on...

once the trailer/tv are plugged together.

the trailer interior lights will come on individually with their own switches.

the interior lights are powered by the 12 volt battery system.

as long as it has juice (from the converter, shore power or alternator) the lights will glow.

THERE IS a main shut off/on switch for the 12 volt system inside the trailer.

mine is under the sofa but usually this main switch is near the converter.

some dealers (and owners) flip this switch to shut off ALL 12 power drains during extended parking/inactivity...

flipping the main 12v switch OFF extends the time before the coach battery drains.

so IF your interior lights aren't operating, find this main 12volt switch and flip it on.

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Old 08-21-2007, 05:16 PM   #26
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Some mid thread key points

Less risk with a diesel tow vehicle, a fridge vent baffle is really helpful, short rides may not need to turn on fridge, longer rides go for it, some government regulations may be enforced especially in tunnels, good rule of thumb to turn it off and stay in the outer lanes at fuel stops. And never slide on seat upholstery during dry winter weather.
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I believe 2air is referring to the (momentary) battery disconnect switch. On most new Airstream CCDs and Safaris this is to the right of the front door (not sure for you FB owners) as you step into the trailer. It has a red LED on the switch panel.
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I believe 2air is referring to the (momentary) battery disconnect switch...
yep silverback...

battery disconnect switch, that's it.

couldn't recall the proper name.

i seldom use it, on my unit it is under the sofa, behind the drawer front, and inside the 12v fuse panel.

the safari/international location is much more convenient...

IF you remember to turn it back ON....

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