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Old 05-19-2016, 12:58 PM   #57
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Someone a few posts back said something about "everyone" knowing you should cut off the propane.

Define "everyone" as any reading of any thread almost ever on this subject reveals masses running with it on....

I run with it in but remain semi-agnostic and open to the discussion.

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Old 05-19-2016, 01:24 PM   #58
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I posted the original question, and it seems a majority of people travel with their propane on and the fridge on propane. A small number of people advise against it.
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:33 PM   #59
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I havent read every single post on ALL the threads concerning this topic but Ive read many. Ive yet to see anyone define just what IS THE RISK of running the fridge on propane in transit. Ive run mine every single trip out without any problem so thats my own small personal experience. So, just what exactly IS the risk that very few people are speaking of? I have an older refer but it still has electronic ignition so there isnt any risk of pilot light blowing out. Wont the control board close the gas valve if there is an ignition problem? This topic pops up every season and the results are the same, most people run their refer in transit and a few dont. Those that choose not to run their refer talk about RISK. WHAT IS THE RISK? I guess I'd just like to know. Thanks!

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Old 05-19-2016, 02:35 PM   #60
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The risk as I understood it was basically running with the propane bottles in the open position. In the case of an accident, a ruptured gas line could ignite the bottles and BOOM.

I mean, that is what I summarized from the couple of posts and videos that I have seen. I have never read about this actually happening.
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:43 PM   #61
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Ahhhhhhh, thank you. So the "risk" isnt in operating the refer necessarily, its about having your propane lines pressurized. Hmmmmmmmm. I guess they would be more vulnerable than the tank itself in an accident. Ok, thanks for the info. I think Ill still run my refer though.

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Old 05-19-2016, 03:02 PM   #62
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The question is perhaps better put this way:

For the people who get in wrecks, how many are in such a way to risk ignition of the gas? And of those sorts of instances, how many actually do see the gas ignite, kaboom?

I think it may be safe to say that as a base rate statistic, this is an extremely tiny number for such crashes up front, then of those numbers, how many see kaboom?

On the other hand, we could show that "yes, the risk of such a wreck like this is rare, but if and when the system is damaged, the risk of ignition is acutally high among the small number of instances."

Quite a bit of subjectivity in how people "feel" about such statistics in their lives...most of us do not think about it....evidence of this is the multitude of responses saying "Ive been doing this for 30+ years and never had a problem"....our personal experience and intuitions often will take precedence over an analysis of a seemingly obscure statistic (I do not say that as a bad thing entirely I assure you).

For me, I run with it on, but I always feel a tad wrong about it...mostly I feel I may be accepting a low statistical risk....it seems to me highly intuitive that keeping the system closed off lowers your risk significantly IF you are in a sort of accident that would compromise that system....?

I guess I pretty much hang my hat on the notion that that sort of wreck won't happen to me and if it does, it is very unlikely to go kaboom?

Statistically, I suspect it is not surprising that most will report entire lifetimes of not experiencing such a wreck...

Darn, starting to talk myself out of running the propane I think...I think I did this same thing last year, then forgot about it mostly, and ran it anyway.
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Old 05-19-2016, 03:09 PM   #63
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Hehehehehehe, stop thinking so much! Youll ruin your day!
I also run my propane powered generator in transit when I want to use the air conditioning to cool the motorhome. I suppose EVERYTHING has some risk to it.
Here's hoping for safe travels to all of us!

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Old 05-19-2016, 03:12 PM   #64
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What if the gasoline tank of the TV gets ripped open....

What about compressed natural gas powered vehicles....

What about propane powered vehicles....

What if the tank falls off the trailer onto a railroad spike and gets punctured...

What if...

What if....




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I guess what I was trying to discern is whether the practice of running the fridge on propane while in transit was inherently dangerous, like running with scissors or playing with matches at a fireworks stand. There are some things you just don't do, like over loading your tow vehicle, yet some people do it. I won't. I like to color within the lines. So I was curious as to what the line is.

There appears to be some tunnels where the law requires you turn off your propane. I for one would not travel through those tunnels with my propane open. Just because the law says I can't. I am funny that way. Law abiding. So I will program my route to not go through those tunnels.

If there is a law that says I cannot run with my propane tanks open, then I will shut them down. I am not aware of any such blanket state law in any of the states I plan to visit.

That's just how I roll. Thank you everyone for your input.
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:13 PM   #66
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I think in order to call it “inherently dangerous” you would have to frame it carefully.

Try this:

If you drive your trailer somewhere and get in a very significant collision that damages most of the trailer including but limited to components of the propane system, is having the propane on in that context “inherently dangerous”?

If a newb Airstream owner on their first trip, forgets to turn off the propane when entering a gas station because of their nerves and their 3 year old screaming in the backseat about dropping their blankey...and there happens to end up being a fuel spill or something nearby...is that “inherently dangerous”?

I think you have to use these specific presume scenarios...because if you do not, and just say “is leaving the propane on for your trip inherently dangerous?” to get to the kaboom, you have to assume all these other things that are likely very rare anyway....so generally I would argue that, GENERALLY, it is not “inherently dangerous”?

Thats my rationalization anyway
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It does come down to how you weigh the risks of running with an open propane line. Like many others, I've done it since I was young. 45 years of pulling a trailer with an open line, and gazillions of miles. No problem, but I've never had an accident. If you have a serious accident you may well total your tow vehicle and Airstream, and in that case, yes a line may rupture and both vehicles wind up burning up besides being badly physically damaged.

Your tow vehicle may catch fire from a ruptured gasoline line, and that means you would want to exit your vehicle quickly, and if you can't....well you know. That bad of an accident could also rupture your AS propane line and cause a fire and then you would want to exit your vehicle quickly, or same result.

My solution is to drive a little slower, look out for the other crazy people on the road, use tire monitors on all my wheels, take breaks to stay alert, hold my miles per day to 350-400, pray a lot, and roll on down the road with the fridge turned on. I did once have my gas tank straps break in the California desert, and drop the tank down on the pavement while we were still moving, but fortunately didn't leak or ignite.

In the end, the open propane line is a increased risk, but not an unwarranted risk, and many us can live with it. If it exceeds your risk comfort, by all means turn it off.
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Risk of gasoline fumes at a service station being ignited by fridge pilot light or Piezo igniter, while pumping gas.

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