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10-21-2009, 11:59 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
Anderson / Sun City
, Indiana / Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 444
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refrig door vacuum
I have installed a new Dometic gas/elect refrigerator (model 2510).
When I shut the door while the frig is running, the door seems to be sucked in by vacuum, making it very difficult to reopen the door for a few minutes.
Anyone else experience this, and have solution?
If you try and reopen the door right after closing, it is next to impossible.
Mike Brumback
1963 Tradewind
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10-22-2009, 02:25 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grand Master
I have installed a new Dometic gas/elect refrigerator (model 2510).
When I shut the door while the frig is running, the door seems to be sucked in by vacuum, making it very difficult to reopen the door for a few minutes.
Anyone else experience this, and have solution?
If you try and reopen the door right after closing, it is next to impossible.
Mike Brumback
1963 Tradewind
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Mike.
The gasket around the door, has a continuous magnet in it.
That does give the feeling of something sucking the door closed, but it's nothing more than the magnet, at work.
That type gasket, is in all RV reefers.
Andy
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10-22-2009, 06:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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I think that is how it is supposed to work.
Our upright freezer at home works the same way.
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10-22-2009, 06:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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The effect is much stronger if I try to open the door fast. Easy does it goes better. This isn't consistent on mine -- most of the time it's reasonable. But when it gets a mind of its own I lower the lights, play soft music, tell it how I see its warmth amidst the cold cuts...
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10-22-2009, 06:45 AM
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30' 1999 Excella
Kingwood
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 295
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same here
Our Dometic is 10 years old. We have the same problem on the freezer door. If we try to open right after closing it, it so difficult to do we worry about breaking the handle. The bottom (fridge) door is OK.
I don't think it has anything to do with magnets, because magnets don't change their attraction over time (at least not ten minutes!)
I too hope somebody has come up with an answer. This problem is causing me to space out my gin & tonics longer than I would like!
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10-22-2009, 06:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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I believe it has to do with the rapid change in temperature of the door and its seal upon closing the door - waiting a few minutes lets all components reach a consistent temperature and the door opens easily. When there is a temperature differential, there is a 'vacuum' created and the door is difficult to open.
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10-22-2009, 07:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Excella
Broken Arrow
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 673
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Fridg door
Inside the fridge and everything in it is cold.
When you open the door you let the cold air spill out and warm air replaces it.
Door gaskets are not perfect seals but they can be very good.
As the new warm air cools it shrinks, This creates a vacuum inside the fridge.
Due to the door gasket not being perfect the vacuum sucks in air from outside until the pressure is equalized.
To demonstrate this concept open the offending door (fridge or freezer) and close it.
Wait five minutes.
Open it again.
It should be a lot easier to open.
Beginner
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10-22-2009, 07:19 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1963 24' Tradewind
Anderson / Sun City
, Indiana / Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 444
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The previous two posts make sense as I reflect on the laws of physics.
Now can someone explain why a home refrigerator doesn't have this same effect (at least not to the degree of our Dometics). Perhaps there is a lesson that can be applied to our RV frigs to reduce this annoying tendency.
Mike Brumback
1963 Tradewind
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10-22-2009, 07:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' International CCD
Willoughby
, Ohio
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beginner
Inside the fridge and everything in it is cold.
When you open the door you let the cold air spill out and warm air replaces it.
Door gaskets are not perfect seals but they can be very good.
As the new warm air cools it shrinks, This creates a vacuum inside the fridge.
Due to the door gasket not being perfect the vacuum sucks in air from outside until the pressure is equalized.
To demonstrate this concept open the offending door (fridge or freezer) and close it.
Wait five minutes.
Open it again.
It should be a lot easier to open.
Beginner
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Or don't open your fridge unless the inside of your AS is 35 degrees
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10-22-2009, 08:21 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 23' Safari
Perrysburg
, Ann Arbor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 916
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Why not home fridge?
I'm betting that it's because the interior of the home machine has a vent - for draining during defrost cycle, that the Dometic doesn't have ... ?
And it may be that due to modest cooling ability, Dometic has had to seal their units much more carefully than the typical home fridge, which has a much more capable cooling ability and so doesn't need to be as well sealed ...
I solve this problem on the Dometic by simply reaching around the door with fingertips of the hand that has not released the little handle latch, and displacing the gasket itself slightly. Seal broken, the door opens easily.
Well, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it!
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10-22-2009, 02:00 PM
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Iwannagocamping
1979 31' Sovereign
Rineyville
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tin Diesel
I too hope somebody has come up with an answer. This problem is causing me to space out my gin & tonics longer than I would like!
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countertop ice maker.
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