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Old 11-15-2005, 03:04 PM   #15
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I'm going to have to bring not only a generator, but also a portable air-conditioner. Unless I decide to avoid camping in Arizona in the summer altogether
White Mountains, Big Lake, WM Apache Reservation etc, no AC required
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:36 PM   #16
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SafeHarbor: My intent is to restore this trailer back to its original condition, and while some units had A/C in 1958, this one did not. It was built in CA and purchased by some folks in Oregon.

AzFlyCaster: Very true! We have some property up in Eagar, AZ. Not too far from Alpine which has just great weather in the summer, so long as there aren't too many fires And Bear Wallow cafe is there in Alpine. They have the best patty melts ever. Between the patty melts and the weather, it's well worth the drive.
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Restoring the "guts"

One of my business partners owns and A/C company and will be testing and possibly recharging the freon on the refrigerator, but while the body is being restored, I had to find a way of suspending the freezer compartment at approx the right height above the condensor and compressor so as to not accidentally break the capillary tube. So I built a little frame to hold it up and now I can move it around without having to ask Max to come out and help me every time.

I think I might have too much time on my hands
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:16 PM   #18
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Marvel fridge question

ankornuta, howdy this is NorCal Bambi in northern California. We have just found a 50's Marvel R12 electric fridge. How did your restoration go? I'd like to restore this one. Maybe even convert it to propane electric. Do you have any suggestions and or names of parts suppliers.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:28 PM   #19
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Don,

You might send a PM to n2batr. He bought the trailer from Andrew several months ago.
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You can power 120V fridge with inverter, while on the road.
It takes 10-15 amps at 12V so 30 amp trailer plug in TV is pretty sufficient.
Can't convert freon fridge to run on propane.
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The refrigerator tear-down is complete. I've decided to keep the original compressor and "guts", but I need to find someone to restore it for me. I think rebuilding an ammonia-filled compressor is a little beyond my skill level. Do people still restore and work on these things? Are they legal?

List of scary substances discovered in my Airstream so far:
- Asbestos
- Ammonia
- Fiberglass insulation (scratchy!)

Here's a pic of the guts. I almost broke that little copper pipe and then I'd have ammonia all over my garage... That's the freezer compartmenet setting on the red stool. The cooling coils only run around it. It also has these two large pill-shaped wide points on the pipe that comes from the compressor. I wonder what those are for?
From your photo in this post, you definitely have a compressor type fridge, which has probaly R-12 refrigerant in it......NO AMMONIA. Ammonia asorbtion refrigerators require HEAT to operate, and if it was an absorbtion type, you would have a heat source like an electric heating element or LP burner attached to a boiler tube and lots of funny, angled tubing and a chimney vent.

This should be a much easier re-build than an ammonia type.
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Hey Don. I ended up selling the trailer when I moved to Manhattan for work. A nice guy up in Wyoming has it now and he's on the forums. It looks like he re-tore the trailer down and is doing it from the ground up. I'm excited to see how it turns out for him!

As far as the fridge goes, after really evaluating the type of camping that I would be doing and realizing that I would be off-grid more often than not, I had decided not to restore the fridge afterall but instead to find a new refrigerator which I could mount the old doors too so that it looked vintage, but operated like a new two-way unit. I really think that's the best way to go, to be honest.

If you're dead-set on keeping the old unit, get to know a good HVAC/R guy. One of my business partners in Arizona built wine-cellar cooling/humidity control units and he told me a great deal about how to restore and rebuild these old units. It's pretty much all custom and I didn't find any good resources online.

Hope this helps!
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ankornuta, howdy this is NorCal Bambi in northern California. We have just found a 50's Marvel R12 electric fridge. How did your restoration go? I'd like to restore this one. Maybe even convert it to propane electric. Do you have any suggestions and or names of parts suppliers.
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