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Old 03-11-2016, 05:31 PM   #1
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New Fridge needed

First thanks to all for the past help. It is much appreciated. The new problem: refrigeration. Our 1999 Safari wants to part with its Dometic 2852. The odor of ammonia is telling us this. So any opinions on replacements?
Stay with Dometic? Switch to Norcold? I've read different ideas of using straight ac models. My thought is to either stick with a two way propane or switch to ac/dc. We used dc on our sailboat for years. Does it work well in travel trailers?
Please pass on your thoughts and ideas.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:40 PM   #2
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First thanks to all for the past help. It is much appreciated. The new problem: refrigeration. Our 1999 Safari wants to part with its Dometic 2852. The odor of ammonia is telling us this. So any opinions on replacements?
Stay with Dometic? Switch to Norcold? I've read different ideas of using straight ac models. My thought is to either stick with a two way propane or switch to ac/dc. We used dc on our sailboat for years. Does it work well in travel trailers?
Please pass on your thoughts and ideas.
Thanks
DC compressor fridges (marine style with Danfoss compressors) work exceptionally well in RVs PROVIDED that you have the appropriate infrastructure. This basically involves having a suitably sized battery bank and a proper way to keep this batteries charged.

Some brands that make excellent units are:
•*Isotherm
• Vitrifrigo
• Tundra

Some of the added benefits are:
•*work up to 30Ί off level
•*built to take a beating in a marine environment
•*little to no corrosion as many parts are stainless steel or plastic
• extremely well insulated
•*cools to operating temperature in about an hour vs. 8+ hours for an absorption fridge
• no need to put pre-chilled food into your fridge like with an absorption type
• NO FIRE RISK!!!!!!!!!!!

I have installed around 15 of these units over the last several years and have not had a single complaint.
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Old 03-21-2016, 09:25 AM   #3
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DC compressor fridges (marine style with Danfoss compressors) work exceptionally well in RVs PROVIDED that you have the appropriate infrastructure. This basically involves having a suitably sized battery bank and a proper way to keep this batteries charged.



Some brands that make excellent units are:

•*Isotherm

• Vitrifrigo

• Tundra



Some of the added benefits are:

•*work up to 30Ί off level

•*built to take a beating in a marine environment

•*little to no corrosion as many parts are stainless steel or plastic

• extremely well insulated

•*cools to operating temperature in about an hour vs. 8+ hours for an absorption fridge

• no need to put pre-chilled food into your fridge like with an absorption type

• NO FIRE RISK!!!!!!!!!!!



I have installed around 15 of these units over the last several years and have not had a single complaint.

I am in the process of refurbishing my 1990 34' Excella
What would you suggest a proper battery bank and charging system?
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:09 AM   #4
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Another option

There is another way to go that will save you money. Several companies rebuild the innards of the refer and bring it back to new or better than new spec.

Here is one company. I used them for some parts to get my 1985 Dometic (which I bought used locally), and was very pleased with the results.

They offer several options for your model and make it simple to return the old core so it can be recycled. I see they also have new-manufactured cores now too.

If your existing refer is presentable cosmetically, replacing the core with new or rebuilt will save you something like half of the cost, and give you excellent results. They aren't the only company on the net that advertises this service, and I only mention them by name since I dealt with them.

Good luck with your project!
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I had my fridge rebuilt by some outfit in Sacramento while staying in Vacaville. Must have hit a slack time for they returned it within a week for about $800. I did the labor, pulled/installed to get that kind of turn around.
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I am in the process of refurbishing my 1990 34' Excella
What would you suggest a proper battery bank and charging system?
Depends………….……………..

On what type of charging system you intend to use and what your other DC loads will be. Also, which size fridge you intend to get. Some use bigger compressors or have 2 of them, increasing the amp draw.

Ping me at: 4rvsolar@gmail.com if you would like to continue the conversation about your specific needs.
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Thanks to all who have weighed in. Please, keep them coming. That's what forums are for. We did the "replace the guts" on our last rv. Since this one is suppose to be a longterm project, whole system replacement seems likely.
However, vendor follow through is my current problem. Still considering options.
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Came across a video of almost your exact cooling unit being changed out. I would say that it doesn't demand a high level of mechanical skill, but rather an attention to detail and average to good skill set.
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Old 03-24-2016, 09:32 PM   #9
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Thanks again for all input. As to the cooling unit Aage mentions above, been there did that. Looking to go a different way this time. I believe if you check warranties you'll find 90 days typical on cooling unit replacements.. And that complete refrig replacement will give you somewhere between two and five years depending on the manufacturer. having lived on a boat for several years I'm also used to ac/doc systems. Again I'm opentoall input. Nothing has yet been ordered.
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I believe if you check warranties you'll find 90 days typical on cooling unit replacements..
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From RVcoolingunit.com


"All cooling unit carry a 3 year replacement warranty and a 5 year for leaks"

I did replace the cooling unit in my last rig. It went out just before beginning a long sojourn. I was very happy with the results. I ended up going with an "improved" unit and I have to say that booger kept things very cold. If an extra $500 doesn't crimp ones budget I can see the argument for just going new. If and when this current unit in my Airstream goes I'll be going with a replacement cooling unit, unless I'm a thousand miles or months from home.




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Dometic is coming out with a new refrigerator call Americana DMC. You can find it on their website under their new products. It runs on a compressor more like a residential fridge with 12V and shore power. I had Bob Jones RV in South Houston, TX look into for me. It's not quite ready for shipment yet. How soon do you need a refrigerator? If you aren't in a big hurry, try contacting them and ask to be notified when Dometic is ready to sell. It might be better to bug one of your local Dometic dealers to order it for you, but Bob Jones might be able to give you the name of a Dometic rep in case you get the run around. They seem to be pretty good at getting things from Dometic.
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Thanks for the info. Looks like Dometic has decided to join the ranks of those offering ac/dc. I would be interested in knowing their pricing. My timeline is sooner rather than later. Finished our last trip out of a cooler with ice. No interest in doing that again. Thanks again.
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We wanted to get away from the ammonia based refrigeration systems. We experienced lack of sufficient cooling at the International Rally last summer running on 120Vac shore power even with the street side awning shading the side of the trailer.

In May, we will be installing a Vitrifrigo DP150i refrigerator in our 23D and a Vitrifrigo DP2600 refrigerator in our Classic. Both trailers already have a large enough lithium battery system and solar panels on the roof.

They will be wired to run on 12Vdc and the 120Vac power input will have a manual switch to come on only when on shore power rather than automatically if the inverter is on.
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Thanks for the info. Looks like Dometic has decided to join the ranks of those offering ac/dc. I would be interested in knowing their pricing. My timeline is sooner rather than later. Finished our last trip out of a cooler with ice. No interest in doing that again. Thanks again.
You're welcome. We used a 2 cu. ft. mini fridge from our house on a 3-week trip last year. It was better than nothing. We have another trip coming up shortly where we will be gone at least 3 weeks, and wanted something with more capacity. I think part of what is slowing Dometic's release of new products is their purchase of Atwood. It appears the sales reps from both sides were having a hard time keeping track of each other's inventory, but it seems to be sorted out now.

If you have an RV repair/restoration shop in your area who is a Dometic dealer, they might be able to get info on the new fridge and provide a heads-up on it's availability. Bob Jones RV is the same kind of business, not a dealership with a small parts store. Those businesses who order a lot of parts probably have the best chance of digging up the info.
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