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Old 06-12-2007, 05:44 PM   #15
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Propane smell is the "normal" prelude to an explosion. Got to find the source!
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:43 PM   #16
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A quick way to check is to try and light the pilot. Only if you have sufficient ventilation after your "leak" to air the TT out. Obviously if the pilot lights and stays lit for more than say..30 seconds than the valve is in the "on" position. Reverse valve position and try again. If your oven is in the same unit it may have it own pilot system as well, so now you have to do it twice. I wouldn't be too frightened unless you sleeping in it overnight with a leak or if when you opened the door the propane smell felt like it was ripping your eyes out. If it wasn't that bad then you are most likely OK, but do youself a favor and check.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:49 PM   #17
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If you have a regulator with a sight gauge, it should be green when the gas is on. With no propane items on turn the tanks off and the gauge should remain green for several hours. If it turns red after a short period, you have a leak.

I have also noticed that the smell added to propane gets much stronger as the tank nears empty. I think that whatever they add to propane to give it the smell must be slightly heavier then the propane itself.
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:01 PM   #18
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There's a big recall on Dometic refrigerators right now. I just got my official "recall notice" today.

The root problem of the recall is a potential PROPANE LEAK. The problem only affects 1 in 10k units, but that's small consolation if you are the unlucky 1.

I don't know from your post whether your fridge is original. Tread carefully here. Shut it all down until you know what's happening!!!

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Old 06-12-2007, 11:29 PM   #19
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Hi All,

Asflycaster and 3Ms75Argosy...

I don't have a regulator on my propane tanks, but I think I might be out of propane (the smell was not strong, just noticeable). I also don't have a propane detector. Two things I think I need!

drag'nwagon, Chuck, and 85MH32I...

I will try to light the pilot on the stove... that will also tell me that I might be out of propane in that tank... The oven knob says 'pilot on' and I have it turned to the off position. My next problem will be how to light the oven pilot. I guess I just turn to the 'pilot on' position and stick a match where it looks like a pilot light might be in the oven?

Sean Michael, thanks for the link to the recall. I checked and my model number is not on the list. Good to know!

Thanks everyone for all of your help. I am doing this on my own and really couldn't do it without the great help I get here! Pam
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:17 AM   #20
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Exclamation Stop!

No regulator on your propane system? Good grief! DON'T operate it until you get one. You need the regulator to prevent the possiblity of serious over-pressure in your appliances which can be very dangerous!

If your stove has the '70.s pilot valve, there will be a position marked "pilot off" on the oven knob.
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Old 06-13-2007, 08:16 AM   #21
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We have a similar stove in our Sovereign. The pilot WILL still feed raw propane to the pilot, whether it is lit or not, unless you turn the main feed to "off". The main feed is that funny looking round lever located between the burner control valves, with the line running to the pilot. It looks like it is slightly turned "on" inthe picture on the right. Try lighting the pilot, and if it lights, turn the valve until the pilot goes out.
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Here is a picture of the stove top. The close up I believe is the pilot valve. If it works like a stop cock, then I believe it is in the off position. (as in.. no gas to pilot light!) It is a little bit sideways in the picture so it will show up. Straight up and down is what I believe to be off....What do you think? Pam
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:58 AM   #22
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No regulator on your propane system? Good grief! DON'T operate it until you get one. You need the regulator to prevent the possiblity of serious over-pressure in your appliances which can be very dangerous!

If your stove has the '70.s pilot valve, there will be a position marked "pilot off" on the oven knob.
Thanks for your reply... I think I might not have my terminolgy correct. My small propane tanks came equipted with the upgrade requirements that came about a few years back... is that the regulator. There is also an indicator that is supposed to tell me when the tanks are empty, but it doesn't seem to work. I have never seen the green... Here are some pictures..

Do I have a 'regulator'?
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Your regulator, which you DO have, is in the first picture. When your arrow is pointed at a tank, that little window should display "green". Red if your have turned the know of your tank off, or if you are out of gas.

If your pilot valve is open, you will get gas coming out of that pilot light,whether lit or not. Ours actually has a valve that turns on gas to the whole stove. I turn that on, and gas comes out of the pilot light. I then open another valve to supply gas to the oven pilot, which does NOT spit out gas unless the thermocouple is hot. Go figure. I suspect that your stove may have been spewing gas your first time around.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:08 PM   #24
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We have a similar stove in our Sovereign. The pilot WILL still feed raw propane to the pilot, whether it is lit or not, unless you turn the main feed to "off". The main feed is that funny looking round lever located between the burner control valves, with the line running to the pilot. It looks like it is slightly turned "on" inthe picture on the right. Try lighting the pilot, and if it lights, turn the valve until the pilot goes out.
In the picture in post #14 is the funny round thing in the far right corner or in the middle of the picture? The round dial looking thing is a mystery to me... It doesn't appear to turn... and I can't read what is on it. Thanks, Pam
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Old 06-14-2007, 01:19 PM   #25
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Pam,
Let me bring you up to speed. What you have is a two-stage gas pressure regulator with an automatic change-over feature.It is supposed to work as follows: The knob with the arrow is a slector valve and allows you to choose which tank is supplying gas. Just point the arrow at the tank you wish to use by twisting the knob. The round glass covered window with the slot is the gas out or gas off indicator. When you select a tank (with the selector knob) that has gas in it and open the tank valve A liitle red flag in the indicator slot window should move up and out of sight indicating that you have gas available. When you shut the tank valve off while you are using gas in the trailer the window will return to red when the pressure drops indicating again no gas if you have only one tank with gas or only one tank valve open. The purose of this system is to help you manage your gas supply. Starting with two full tanks, you select either one with the selector knob and open BOTH tank valves. The red flag will disappear indicating the tank you have selected has fuel. When that tank is empty the red flag will reappear to tell you that the first tank is empty and the change-over valve will automatically have switched to the other tank(the one to which the selector arrow IS NOT pointing). The changeover also shuts of the line to the first(empty) tank so that you can remove it to refill without gas escaping or interrupting your service. At that point , turn the selector toward the other tank which is now the supply tank.. When you put the refilled tank back on, just open the tank valve and the sytem will switch again when the second tank is empty. Etc.. Although your Fisher regulator is no longer manufactured, many other brands are available from various RV supplies. If you shut off both tank valves and open a gas valve in the trailer, the red flag should appear. If it does not, then the changeover is defective and must be replaced. It's a good system, but not intuitive. Hope this helps

P.S. Theoretically you could use this system to test for leaks by shutting off all your gas appliances and then turning the tank valves off. Since the indicator is looking for a pressure drop the red flag will appear soon if you have a leak. There are special purpose gages that you can buy to check your system. They are available from marine and rv suppliers and cost @$ 40.
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Here is your picture with some labels. The pressure regulator requires no attention. The pilot shut-off lets you use propane without the stove pilots on.
The oven control should have a position for pilot off to do the same for the oven pilot. For example, if you're boondocking and trying to be parsimonius with propane, you would shut the stove pilots off when not using the stove, and then the fridge would be the only consumer of fuel. Ditto with the water heater.
The furnace has an electric ignitor and doesn't use a pilot.
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Thanks Excella CM! I am getting it all figured out thanks to your great help! See my PM to you.... Pam
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Here is your picture with some labels.
Bill, thanks for posting the labels. I was busy working on our trailer toiday, and didn't get to reply to Pam's question.
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