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Old 09-05-2008, 04:39 PM   #43
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The number one cause of gas station fires is women.

I'm trying to figure out, is that because they provide the sparks ... or the gas?!?

It would be safer for me to pump gasoline directly onto the open flame than to tell my wife, "Honey, get out and wait over there (in the hot sun) while I fill up. If you're too near the pump it might blow ... and I might get hurt."
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Old 09-05-2008, 04:58 PM   #44
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I'm trying to figure out, is that because they provide the sparks ... or the gas?!?

It would be safer for me to pump gasoline directly onto the open flame than to tell my wife, "Honey, get out and wait over there (in the hot sun) while I fill up. If you're too near the pump it might blow ... and I might get hurt."

I'm with you, my wife's a black belt... I sent her down the ally first when we lived in NY....
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:01 PM   #45
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I read about this (somewhere) and then made personal observations to confirm it. Go to the gas station (Costco is a good example) and watch what people do when they pump gas. Most women get back into the car as the gas pumps, most men do not. The theory is that the static electricity generated by getting in and out of the car will cause a spark at the nozzle and start a fire.

I am just reporting the theory. I have no idea if this would start a fire at a gas pump or not. Please do not shoot the messenger.
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Old 09-05-2008, 05:34 PM   #46
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I read about this (somewhere) and then made personal observations to confirm it. Go to the gas station (Costco is a good example) and watch what people do when they pump gas. Most women get back into the car as the gas pumps, most men do not. The theory is that the static electricity generated by getting in and out of the car will cause a spark at the nozzle and start a fire.

I am just reporting the theory. I have no idea if this would start a fire at a gas pump or not. Please do not shoot the messenger.
Gee it was a woman.......YouTube - Gas station fire - Incendio en la gasolinera
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:23 PM   #47
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Yeeeeeeah....YouTube is always the first place I go for scientific data...NOT!
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Old 09-05-2008, 07:37 PM   #48
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Yeeeeeeah....YouTube is always the first place I go for scientific data...NOT!
Yep...gotta be careful of dem fake flames...

The cell phone fire looks fake too...

Just can't trust those security cameras...

Not much science involved, just gas fumes and a spark... YEP!
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You can see by the video that ALL WOMEN GET BACK IN THEIR CARS>>>>> " Joke"""
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I guess I'm the odd ball here. My trips are = to or < 8 hours.

After several outings I found it easier to pre-freeze two 1/2 gallon heavy duty juice bottles and place one in the freezer, one in the frig and leave the propane off in the frig.

We travel with water/juice/colas/and on hand condiments in the frig and the frozen jugs keeps everything cold.

We found that no matter no matter what, if we left home with a ton of food stuffs in the frig or near nothing, when we arrive at our destination, we always ended up going to the local Wal-mart for something anyway.

Now we always have cold drinks, and we do not worry about propane flames or food temps. I like simple. We buy what we need when we are there.
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I read about this (somewhere) and then made personal observations to confirm it. Go to the gas station (Costco is a good example) and watch what people do when they pump gas. Most women get back into the car as the gas pumps, most men do not. The theory is that the static electricity generated by getting in and out of the car will cause a spark at the nozzle and start a fire.

I am just reporting the theory. I have no idea if this would start a fire at a gas pump or not. Please do not shoot the messenger.
Hi, last time I posted this comment about women starting gas station fires it was confirmed by the very next poster. It is shown on safety videos by OSHA and was actually caught on tape several times. Men [most] get out of their vehicles, pump the gas, get back in a drive away. Women [not all] [and for sure, not my wife] many of them, and I have seen it with my own eyes, but not the fire yet, get out of their vehicles to start the refueling process and for what ever reasons go back inside of these vehicles several times. After slideing across the seat several times and most likely wearing some article of clothing made out of nylon, they generate static electric. Returning to remove the nozzle, as they make contact, the static electric makes a nice spark at the nozzle and Ka-boom. Gas station fire. Myth? I don't think OSHA would have a myth in a safety video.
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:55 AM   #52
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Anecdotal evidence?

I'm sure what your waring and the material covering your seats has something to do with the generation of the static spark.

But consider your tires.
Back in the day Dad got Mom a very nice 52 Hudson Hornet. First thing he did was put a brand new set of $15.00 Firestone w/w on it. We all got a good Zap after sliding across the wool seat and touching the metal door handle when getting out. Bout 4 months later Mom had a blow-out and Dad had to put the well worn spare on.(different brand), bingo,no more zaps.
Now Dad was a pretty sharp cookie and he always said it was the spare tire that prevented the zaps. He said it was carbon that makes your tires black, and the old spare was well worn,(larger contact patch) and probably had more carbon added during manufacture.

After following his knuckle busting career path, and attending several tire seminars of my own, I asked the expert. Yes, carbon is added during manufacture and different brands were more prone to the static zap, thats why you see those hanging straps once in awhile. FWIW.

So see it has nothing to do with gender, but I'm sure nude Filling Stations would cut down the danger.
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i'm not sure where NY law stands now but the hold-open latches on the nozzles were not allowed on self service pumps here. in NJ they don't even have self service pumps.

wool sweaters are also a good static creator.

do you remember the days when you would drag your feet across the rug and touch a siblings ear? lol
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Great conversation, lots of banter....simple solution......Don't tempt fate.

Freeze items before leaving, run the refrigerator the day/night before to get it cold. I have driven in 100 degree weather for 8-9 hours and had things arrive cold.

I won't risk my Airstream by running with the gas on....just won't do it.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:18 PM   #55
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i'm not sure where NY law stands now but the hold-open latches on the nozzles were not allowed on self service pumps here. in NJ they don't even have self service pumps.

wool sweaters are also a good static creator.

do you remember the days when you would drag your feet across the rug and touch a siblings ear? lol
I'm pretty sure the hold open pumps are still outlawed in NYC, we also had a ban on them here for quite awhile, but recently they reappeared. Just don't understand the reasoning behind that move.
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....... but I'm sure nude Filling Stations would cut down the danger.
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