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Old 09-05-2008, 12:51 PM   #29
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sometimes actions on their own are of no consequence. sometimes it is when multiple actions combine to create a problem. my feeling is that i like to minimize the actions if possible. i don't say to risk food poisoning but don't take the risk if you don't have to.

this was one very sad story of actions combining in a bad way with little or no chance of being predicted.

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Old 09-05-2008, 01:16 PM   #30
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For the most part when I get fuel, the trailer is beyond the pumps, the rig is like 50+ feet.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:18 PM   #31
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hi jg...

the fridge in my unit is ON 24/7/365...


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What is your gas usage in days weeks etc?
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:20 PM   #32
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So let's do the risk assessment (I'm a safety manager, so I'm compulsive about analyzing the issues): you have gasoline and a hot flame. No problem if the gas is liquid or if it far away from the flame. If you have gas vapor in the "right" concentration and enough heat then you can have a sudden flame-up (or explosion). I have a MoHo and the gas fill is right next to the fridge vent. However, as mentioned above, in CA we have vapor recovery nozzles. Gas fumes have a low threshold of odor--you'll smell a relatively small amount--so if I can't smell it I don't worry. The combination of vapor and heat doesn't happen. If your fuel point is far away from the heat source, then also no problem. Only worry is from a major spill and then evaporation, but a hot exhaust could set off something like that. If somebody spills a bunch of gas (not diesel) then I suggest moving away promptly. I only run the fridge before a trip out, but then its 24/7 until I empty it.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:34 PM   #33
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I travel with my fridge on gas. Always wondered about this until I saw a car pull over off I-10 in MS and in the time it took me to approach at 70mph the catalytic converter had started a fire in the grass, I would say about 8-10 sec in time. So, have you ever looked under your vehicle at night with the engine running - the darn thing is red hot - not a flame but VERY hot. Don't pull into a pump with a big wet spot of gas on the driveway.
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Old 09-05-2008, 01:44 PM   #34
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I don't run with the gas on because I don't have to. We cool the fridge before the trip, freeze the items that we can, keep the door closed and monitor the temperature with a remote sensor. Sometimes Ben and Jerry get a little soft, nothing new for them...

Also, you do not need to refrigerate spam.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:00 PM   #35
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Do you have a part number on that remote sensor - azflycaster??? Please.....
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:16 PM   #36
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We use a thermometer from CW that has a remote sensor.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:19 PM   #37
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What is your gas usage in days weeks etc?
liquid petroleum (lp) gas right?

winter, using the furnace is 1 tank (9 gals) every few days when temps are 25-55 outside the 34 footer.

but the other 3 seasons a 40 lb cylinder of lp last weeks, and often 3-4 months for 2 tanks.

but that's not all with the fridge on lp.

when my unit is in the storage bay (4 a few weeks) it's plugged into 'lectric and the fridge is on.

except for defrosting (which takes 1 hour) about 2-3 times a year.

since lp gets used for the water heater and fake firepit too, i haven't isolated lp consumption JUST for the fridge...

but my impression is that is a very small amount while driving for the 10 cubic ft dometic,

as in, 0.5 gal-1gal/1000 miles in summer.

travel movement helps with air circulation on the coils and sloshing the ammonia evaporant is good too...

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Old 09-05-2008, 02:38 PM   #38
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I don't run with the gas on because I don't have to. We cool the fridge before the trip, freeze the items that we can, keep the door closed and monitor the temperature with a remote sensor. Sometimes Ben and Jerry get a little soft, nothing new for them...

Also, you do not need to refrigerate spam.

You must not drive for to long... I can run 9 hrs plus if I'm trying to get somewhere... rather have it on...

It's a personal choice, but it's safe to run with it on..........
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won't stay on

Back on the first page of this thread, Airstream66 asked for advice on how to keep the fridge on while driving. I have the same problem. I improved the situation when I looked inside the refer panel (outside) and saw that the sheet-metal box that surrounded the gas inlet had flanges pulled open. I pushed them to where they were closed in better (its now a real box, albeit not airtight). It seems the air drafts were disrupting the gas jet (I guess).

Now, the refer will stay on when travelling unless we have a crosswind coming from that side of the trailer, then it will be out whenever I stop and check.

Any advice for the two of us?
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:47 PM   #40
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You must not drive for to long... I can run 9 hrs plus if I'm trying to get somewhere... rather have it on...

It's a personal choice, but it's safe to run with it on..........
The trip to Colorado was pretty long, about 10 hours on the road the first day. Only five the next day. We cooled the fridge over night between days. We froze a bunch of stuff for that trip. My fridge is also very small.

It is a personal choice, my way is a little safer........
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:52 PM   #41
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I run mine while I am driving although in some places you have to turn it off in order to go through tunnels (ie: Virginia Beach). You'd have to crush a bottle to really have a problem and at that point all bets are off anyway. I have turned it off in busy gas stations when the trailer is well under the canopy.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:54 PM   #42
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Back on the first page of this thread, Airstream66 asked for advice on how to keep the fridge on while driving. I have the same problem. I improved the situation when I looked inside the refer panel (outside) and saw that the sheet-metal box that surrounded the gas inlet had flanges pulled open. I pushed them to where they were closed in better (its now a real box, albeit not airtight). It seems the air drafts were disrupting the gas jet (I guess).

Now, the refer will stay on when travelling unless we have a crosswind coming from that side of the trailer, then it will be out whenever I stop and check.

Any advice for the two of us?
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In post 14,
Our 63 Safari's fridge would only stay lit after I made a temporary cover for the open vent under the fridge. Remember to remove it when parked.
I forgot to mention in that post that I also sealed the "flame" box with metal duct tape.

If your rig has that floor vent give it a try.
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