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Old 04-23-2016, 02:21 PM   #15
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Wow, Lew. Thanks for the articulate explanation and sorry you had to go through that. We are all at a great loss for you understandably not wanting to work with those units.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:34 PM   #16
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That poor design of refrigeration by Dometic will be replaced next month in both of our trailers with a Vitrifrigo DP2600 going into our Classic and the DP150iL going into our 23D.
Would that be this unit? http://www.vfamerica.com/eng/seasteel-dp2600ix.html

It looks quite nice. I can see why you'd like it. How's the fit vs. the existing fridge that comes with the trailer?

(Thinking selfishly, we have an International 27FB.)

We'd have to resolve our own solar/battery situation before putting in one of these babies, but it looks prime and I bet it works a lot better.
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Old 04-23-2016, 02:39 PM   #17
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I then installed some extra protection with an automatic fire extinguisher in the refrigerator compartment, just in case their cheap fix does not work.
Looks nice, with a good fit. Would you mind sharing a link to the one you installed so we could the same?
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Old 04-23-2016, 04:08 PM   #18
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Will modify the 23D starting 9 May and start the Classic install hopefully the following Monday.

Photos of the Dometic CU434 stove installation as well the Vitrifrigo in each trailer will be put up as each unit gets completed. We know the Classic installation will involve cabinet work as the new unit is much shorter.
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MY 4 door norcold was recalled and they put in a sensor a year ago. Then the fridge would go up to 75 on the road! I lost 100s of dollars in food and last fall the warranty co put in a new cooling unit...still the same thing and then new doors! now it works! glad it was covered!
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an yes its the LAWYERS who prevail in a class action. the plaintiffs share the rest and get a check for 15.00! I know as Ive been there!
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Old 04-23-2016, 07:31 PM   #21
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Holey cow, what a story! Thank you for sharing Lew. Both interesting and disturbing at the same time. So I guess no product that had a new improved design that didn't quite work out as intended can't be improved more without creating liability issues! Something wrong with the system here.
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Old 04-24-2016, 02:52 AM   #22
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Cessna could only do cosmetic changes as a major improvement to the airframe opens the door for class action suits alleging the earlier planes were defective....
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We had lost the refrigerant in our Dometic last year while wintering in AZ. After having a RV tech look at it decided to replace the entire unit opposed to the cooling unit only. It was immediately obvious that this guy had done this before, so I questioned him about the failure (the refrige was 10 years old). He explained that the leak was the result of a manufacture weakness, and the "fix" had been to install a shield to try and avoid a fire. I contacted Dometic about this issue and am sure I was told that the faulty tube had been fixed in newer models. Is that not the case?
As a side note, change almost always follows tragedy and litigation.
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In some industries, the occasional customer or employee death is cheaper than paying to comply with the safety regulations.

Since most businesses are incorporated, the decision makers are usually isolated from the litigation and or jail.

If I knew then what I know now, we should have left the Dometic/Atwood stove and water heater along with the Dometic refrigerator sitting at the factory along with the twin mattresses we left there from our Classic.
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Wow. This is really eye opening. I have always loved the idea of LP refridgeration. It's like magic...cool from heat. And so quiet. I guess I have more to learn.

2dabeach (Post #10) can you share details of your automatic fire extinguisher mod? From the pic I thought you had put a fire extinguisher near the fridge compartment, then read your post and saw the "automatic" description!
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Would that be this unit? http://www.vfamerica.com/eng/seasteel-dp2600ix.html

It looks quite nice. I can see why you'd like it. How's the fit vs. the existing fridge that comes with the trailer?

(Thinking selfishly, we have an International 27FB.)

We'd have to resolve our own solar/battery situation before putting in one of these babies, but it looks prime and I bet it works a lot better.
This is the unit I use most frequently as the replacement or Dometic's 6 and 7 cu/ft models:

http://www.vitrifrigo.com/eng/page96.html

The steel unit is nice but a bit pricey. Same 'innards' though!!!!
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Lew,

Have you seen the new Dometic compressor refrigerators in 6 and 8 cu/ft sizes?
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That poor design of refrigeration by Dometic will be replaced next month in both of our trailers with a Vitrifrigo DP2600 going into our Classic and the DP150iL going into our 23D. We already had both solar cells and lithium batteries installed in/on both trailers, so the 12Vdc power source will not be an issue.

Lou - how do these refrigerators work? I'm assuming no propane - which probably means I'd need a solar setup rather than kill the batteries when off shore power...
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