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Old 04-19-2009, 02:00 AM   #1
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Can't fix my Dometic from Iraq, help

Hi All,

John here from Iraq. Been over about two months, 10 more to go before I can get in Aunt Gladys and see the country. I can assure you, where ever we go, there will be green things. I am full up with desert.

I had Camping World do the Dometic Recall right before I deployed.


got an E mail from my wife with some weird data:


Any thoughts, by the way, the curse of deployment is that magical mystery force that causes large mechanical things to break, floods, trees to fall and animal problems whenever I deploy.


John

"Hey honey

tommy came over to help move the AS today. Everything is fine except
the refrig doesn't work at all and apparently hasn't been working
either.
When we moved the AS there was an overwhelming smell of ammonia
outside the AS, so bad we had to walk away from it. It went on for a
long time.
There was also a long hissing sound coming from the panel on the
outside just where the refrig is. We couldn't get power to the refrig
to come on at all.
All the fusses are fine. The other thing that doesn't work is the
propane detector. Tommy said it's in the alert mode, yellow.

I tallked with Jefferey and his idea was that maybe it was freon
coming out of the refrig and that's what we smelled. The refrig was
almost 70 degrees on the thermometer on the inside
so it hasn't been working for a while. I checked it recently and it
was fine.

Do you remember what the recall was for? and what they fixed? I may
have to hook it up and take it down for service.

Would if anyone on the AS chat room wouldknow what's going on.

Talk with you soon.

I think we've done pretty well going a whole two months before the
curse of deployment set in."
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:52 AM   #2
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John,

Wish I had better news, but your refrigerator has gone bye-bye. The ammonia smell is the tip off. There's nothing else in the trailer that smells like ammonia unless you have an open bottle of ammonia cleaner.

The refrigerant in your refrigerator is mostly pure ammonia.

The Dometic recall was to install a flame shield and thermal sensor because the refirigerators had a tendency to develop leaks. Camping World did nothing to fix the cause of the leak; their fix was just to reduce the risk that the leak would cause a conflagration. Pretty crappy.

Whether you replace the refrigerator, or just have the refrigeration unit rebuild would depend on your warranty and insurance situation.

Thanks for your service!
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:40 AM   #3
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Actually the recall work and the refirgerant leak may be related. The recall work can be seen inside of the outside refrig access compartment. As mentioned, there was a more significant type of heat shield that they installed per the recall in that compartment.

If the refrig worked before you took it in for the recall, perhaps they nicked a refigerant line in the same outside compartment where the recall work was done. Look for the obvious first. It's unlikely that a less than 4 yr old AS would suddenly develop a refrigerant leak. just a thought.
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BTW, thanks for your service to our country.
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Old 04-19-2009, 07:50 AM   #5
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RV Mobile, RV and Gas Refrigerators is in Everett and has been helpful to me. Probably could replace or repair your cooling unit.

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Quote:
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I had Camping World do the Dometic Recall right before I deployed.
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Don't wanna start a fire here But......When I was told by CW that I would need an appointment and leave the AS overnight for the recall. (Not a confidence builder.) I called AS of Western PA and had it done in 45min.

I would also suspect a connection, but it will be difficult to prove. Take some photo's of the source of the leak if possible.
Be very thankful there was no fire.
Good Luck.

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Hi John

The cooling unit is made of pretty thick steel so it is doubtful doing a recal would cause a leak. However an amonia leak in a 4 year old cooling unit is unusual, I would have your wife call dometic and see if they won't particpate in replacing the cooling unit. She would need the product and serial numbers off of the fridge when she calls, she will get much further with them than a dealer or repair facility will.

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As others have said,

Thank you for your service to our country.

Good luck with the refrigerator.

keep your head down and god speed.
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I don't want to disagree with Andy, but the reason for the recall was that the units were more prone to leak than expected. Not sure how far you would get with the manufacturer either, someone else here on the forums had a leak develop after the recal and were told Dometic wouldn't replace it as it was out of warranty.
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Ok let's get some things clear. The recall was to address the potential for fires. In short, they installed a larger protective cover over the pilot light/ignition assembly in the outside refrigerator access compartment. It appears you have a REFRIGERANT leak. There are copper refrigerant lines in the same compartment that the recall work was done. perhaps the copper lines was nicked during the recall. you may have to remove the protective cover in order to examine the refrigerant lines...but please answer this question:
DID THE REFRIGERTOR WORK BEFORE THE RECALL WAS DONE?
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OK. That doesn't really agree with my understanding of the recall. I thought it was the refrigerant leak due to a poorly designed weld that led to the recall. The refirgerant lines are all steel, not copper.

From the Dometic recall notice (their caps):
. . .CERTAIN DOMETIC TWO-DOOR REFRIGERATORS MANUFACTURED BETWEEN APRIL 1997 AND MAY 2003: SERIAL NOS.
713XXXXX THROUGH 752XXXXX;
801XXXXX THROUGH 852XXXXX;
901XXXXX THROUGH 952XXXXX;
001XXXXX THROUGH 052XXXXX;
101XXXXX THROUGH 152XXXXX;
201XXXXX THROUGH 252XXXXX;
301XXXXX THROUGH 319XXXXX,
INSTALLED IN CERTAIN RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AS ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT AND SOLD AS AFTERMARKET EQUIPMENT. A FATIGUE CRACK MAY DEVELOP IN THE BOILER TUBE WHICH MAY RELEASE A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF PRESSURIZED COOLANT SOLUTION INTO AN AREA WHERE AN IGNITION SOURCE (GAS FLAME) IS PRESENT.

Consequence:
THE RELEASE OF COOLANT UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS COULD IGNITE AND RESULT IN A FIRE.
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Heres' a description of the specific recall issue - http://www.airforums.com/forums/show...4&postcount=20

Here are pics pre & post when I had the recall done -- http://www.airforums.com/forums/show...4&postcount=27

The whole thread recovers a lot of ground but it's worth scanning.
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