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Old 11-04-2010, 01:25 PM   #1
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Newbie just purchased '73 Land Yacht Safari-Gutting ?'s

Hi all I just purchased a 73 Safari and would like some guidance as to where to begin. The outside is in great condition and the inside is littered bad with mice droppings, as I have read is an issue with a lot of AS that sit for long periods. There are 2 noticeable small areas of floor rot. I want to totally renovate and modernize to my taste. So if anyone near Indiana wants a 73 safari interior let me know, IE cabinets, stove, fridge, etc. I am handy with plumbing, electricity, and carpentry. I just need to know where to begin. I want to gut completely. Install new floor, rewire, new insulation. I also want to do something with the interior skins, they are yellowed and moldy. The skins at each end are different looking than the rest of the AS interior skins. I guess my main 2 questions are: do i remove belly pan 1st? or do I remove all interior components and skin 1st? Also is the skin material in my AS zolatone or vinyl over clad? i have also read about compromising structural integrity by removing interior skin? but i have seen numerous pictures of gutted interiors with the shell on! When removing interior skin, I am assuming I need to photograph or video and number each piece to reinstall correctly? Also I would like to how to remove the interior skins. I am assuming again, although I shouldnt assume, that I just drill the rivets out. What size drill bit? I apologize for such a long post, but I have barely scratched surface. I hope someday soon I will be able to offer sound advice to other Airstreamers.

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:50 PM   #2
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Ben The side belly wraps are attached to the shell so they must come off first if you intend to remove the shell. I have a 73 which I'm in the middle of a shell off restoration. My suggestion is to drop the belly pan and side wraps first while the weather is still good. That way you can inspect the frame for rust damage and the floor totally for rot. My floor looked not too bad from inside but once I dropped the pan I realized how bad it was. It will rot right where the shell attaches to the floor.

Then gut the interior after you determine if the shell must come off to replace/repair the frame and the floor.
The interior skins(panels) are vinyl clad aluminium and can be painted if you prep them properly first. You will not comprimise the integrity by removing the panels unless you want to travel without them. The shell will not fold in without them.
Yes to remove them just drill out the rivets with a 1/8" bit. Mark the back of each panel for location and direction. It helps to draw out a map of the trailer with locations of each panel.
The skins that you refer to at each end are known as the interior end caps and are made of plastic. They are quite heavy and awkward to handle once removed and are even harder to put back. Several hands make the job easier.
In brief make sure your frame/floor is sound. Then weatherproof the shell. Seal all openings like windows, door, compartment doors, roof vents, stink pipe vent covers, TV antenna and air conditioning.
Once the chassis is sound and the shell is water tight then you can do your renovations to the interior. Oh yeah make sure all your plumbing systems and propane systems are repaired and in good working order while you have the pan/ floor open. It's much easier to do before everything is closed in.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:15 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forums!! I might need some interior bits if you are going to gut and replace your Safari interior. Could you post some pics of the interior? Thanks and enjoy the site. MPJ
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:33 PM   #4
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Welcome to the Forum.
All good advice. Pay particular attention the rear floor and frame. They are prone to collecting water on the bumper covers, which runs inside wrecking the frame and floor.
Mine already had frame, and apparent, shell repairs but was still getting wet. There are threads about this problem and the fix.
Good luck. Enjoy the new project,

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Old 11-04-2010, 02:41 PM   #5
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We were all newbies once. Welcome to the forum. We are all here to help.

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Old 11-04-2010, 04:46 PM   #6
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Hi Ben
Welcome to the forum and a fellow safari owner. Any help I can offer PM me.
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:30 PM   #7
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Hi Ben,

Welcome to the forum! Interested in tambour and a sink cover if you are willing to ship to PA.

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Old 11-04-2010, 06:02 PM   #8
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Hi Ben,

Welcome to the forums. We have a '73 that we are just starting to renovate as well, but we are going to stay pretty much with the original.

If your range is in reasonable condition we would definitely be interested. Also some tambour. Most of all, though we are looking for parts for the table.

I'll send you a PM to give you my contact information.
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