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Old 07-09-2007, 01:05 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by overlander63
As far as the route, State Route 28 in North Carolina along with US 129 between Bryson City and Chilhowee. the condition of the road is okay, but the twisting, turning, and up-and-down (constant) make it a nightmare to drive. I don't think I ever went more than 25 mph, and usually that seemed recklessly fast. I had (very) briefly considered taking our trailer that way, as the map said it was very scenic, and recommended to travel. It would break a snake's back to try to travel this route
This road even has a name 'Tail of the Dragon' and 'Deals Gap'
World famous in the biker circles and sport cars...
Has at least two web sites...
Tail of the Dragon at Deals Gap and Cherohala Skyway, Graham Co, NC, Deal's Gap, North Carolina information guide, Dragon motorcycle tour, Great Smoky Mountains

Remember Harrison Ford jumping off that dam in 'The Fugitive' ?
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Best to go around, then come back after you have set up your TT at campsite.
Would be zero fun pulling one up, or wearing out your brakes going down.

318 turns in 11 miles

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Old 07-09-2007, 08:11 AM   #30
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Of course, Illinois doesnt stop south of Kankakee

Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
Really, most roads in Illinois are pretty bad unless the have been rebuilt in the past 2-3 years.

...but even when they are repaired, it's pretty much a parking lot anyway on nearly every Interstate in the Chicagoland area.

Just a gentle reminder that the north east end is not the entire state. Much of the roadway in the southern part of the state could be rated fair to good.


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Old 07-13-2007, 08:33 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by klattu
This road even has a name 'Tail of the Dragon' and 'Deals Gap'
World famous in the biker circles and sport cars...

318 turns in 11 miles
While I can see where it would be a fascination for sports cars and motorcycles, I can attest that it is no fun trying to drive that route in an extended cab long bed pickup.
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Old 07-13-2007, 11:46 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by codybear
California's hwy 80!!
I was just out of high school and cruised regularly old US 40 between Oakand, Sacramento and Reno in my 1951 Mercury convertible. The old 2 lane highway passed thru every town and it's traffic signals. Twisting hairpin turns over Donner Summit where if you dared to look down the side of the mountain you would see hundreds of feet down the remains of vehicles that had missed turns. As part of President Eisenhower's transcontinental highway plan US 40 gave way to the construction of I 80 and completed in time for the 1960 Winter Olympics in Squaw Valley. I 80 was state of the art travel then. I think the engineer's thought it would last forever. It is now beyond forever. A-A-H, GOOD old days.

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Old 07-13-2007, 11:57 PM   #33
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I-40 E. of Dallas. The Texas Tech. Engineers that layed that 50 miles of concrete were mad at the other winning team, their mother-in laws, and the state senators that live in the area.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:00 AM   #34
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:07 AM   #35
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It has to be I-25 just north of Denver Colorado. The road is so bad, it's like riding a roller coaster. The truck and trailer buck like a wild horse. I avoid that stretch of highway whenever possible. There are lots of accidents on that stretch also.

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Old 07-14-2007, 07:26 AM   #36
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Real close to home

We can travel thousands of miles and the worst road will often be the one closest to home. The last three miles of gravel is often an adventure, but the last 300 feet from the stream to the driveway is really scary after a downpour.

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Old 08-01-2007, 01:59 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by bobfowler
I-287 in NY, between I-684 and the Tappan Zee Bridge is tied with the Cross Bronx Expressway for worst in my book. YUCK!
you'll be happy to know it has had major rebuilding over the past few years, mostly on the bridge end. it will still crawl during peak traffic but your kidneys will still be intact. by the time it is finished the bridge will get replaced with one of the following:

a) a new bridge
b) a tunnel
c) two new bridges
d) a bridge with two decks and rail service
e) a lot of talk and no action until it falls down

and will take twice the time and cost of what was budgeted.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:14 PM   #38
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[quote=KeithC]I-40 E. of Dallas. The Texas Tech. Engineers that layed that 50 miles of concrete were mad at the other winning team, their mother-in laws, and the state senators that live in the area.[/quote I-20 east of Dallas,hoppy-hoppy-hopp for sure!!!
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:23 PM   #39
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Not sure of what you mean by 40 east of Dallas - 40 goes through Arkansas into Oklahoma City, through Amarillo and into NM. 30 and 20 go through Dallas.

30 east of Dallas is not too bad, but I have not driven 20 east of Dallas in a while. It wasn't the best the last time I did, perhaps 5 years ago?

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Old 08-01-2007, 02:30 PM   #40
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Originally Posted by bobfowler
I-287 in NY, between I-684 and the Tappan Zee Bridge is tied with the Cross Bronx Expressway for worst in my book. YUCK!
Bob- I used to commute that section of highway everyday from my home to the office. We were on it just the other week on our way to Grey Fox and they have repaved some sections. I had even traveled it once in a Jeep, OUCH! We have also done 28 in NC. Forget it! Another real favorite was RT-14 in Wyoming up and over the Big Horn (9,666 ft.). I wasn't expecting that one!
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:23 PM   #41
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Oh, geez, without a doubt the stretch of I-40 from Memphis to Little Rock. It will beat the HECK out of you, no matter what you are driving. It is a major truck route and Arkansas hasn't bothered to do anything with it.

There was an article on it in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette recently where the state acknowledged the issues with it and said it was on the list to get to soon, and they hadn't got to it before due to other priorities. We'll see.

As a secondary, the stretch of I-530 (in Arkansas between Little Rock and Pine Bluff) from Exit 24 about 8 miles north is horrible. Patched to within an inch of its life and really messed up, and they keep redoing little bits of it but it needs ripping out and total replacement.

You are absolutely correct, stopped 2 times to check and be sure we didn't have a flat.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:34 AM   #42
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CA state highway 18 from Big Bear Lake north to Lucerne Valley is a killer! We did not expect the 11 - 16% grade or the turns so tight you could read your Airstream's license plate! The AAA CA map shows a short little straight line, but whoo, boy - it's a snaky killer!

We recreated a scene from Lucy-Desi's "Long, Long Trailer" on this road. We started the climb showing a little less than 1/4 tank of gas. After eleventy-nine switchbacks, and moving at times under 10 mph, our "check engine" light came on. Our intrepid tv Silvester needed a break, and we pulled into a switchback turnout with barely enough room to clear traffic. However, traffic wasn't a problem 'cause nobody else was stupid enough to take this route.

We calmed our nerves, let Silvester cool down, and chose to press on rather than attempt to turn around - which would have been a five point jacknife turn broadside to traffic.

At the next switchback Silvester started to cough and stutter, and would not go on. It was the steepest part of the steepest turn yet. I had no choice but to back down! My wife ran down the hill around the turn behind us to stop traffic, and I started to ease back around the turn - and then the engine quit completely. No power brakes, no power steering - just 14,000 lbs. aimed at the side of the mountain (luckily not aimed over the cliff!)

I stood on the brakes, jabbed the parking brake, and as we thankfully groaned to a stop, I shifted to "Park." Nose of the van 3' into the downhill lane, rear bumper of our treasured AS "Slivia" 2' from the wall. 8 cars had gathered by now behind us. After sitting quietly and shaking for a minute, I said a little prayer, complimented Silvester on all the good work he had done on our two week California adventure, asked him to start up, and he did! I was able to ease van and trailer into a pullout a little ways back down the road, and the waiting queue of cars whooshed past.

Now what? We reviewed the events, and wondered if maybe low gas was the problem - especially when the van was canted up at a severe angle, and gas gathered in the back of the tank. I poured the two gallon reserve I carry into the van, said another prayer, and started up - and we pulled ahead and out of that nightmare!

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