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Old 01-03-2016, 12:05 PM   #15
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No need to jack up..just take them off one at a time, snug the new ones on one at a time. Then go back and torque in a star pattern.
Thanks Rich - What should I torque them to?
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Old 01-03-2016, 12:34 PM   #16
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Old 01-03-2016, 01:59 PM   #17
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Please, "Do Not" torque your 1/2" lugs to 110-lbs. Torque 1/2" to "85-lbs" at the most. 110-lbs is for 9/16" lugs.
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:00 PM   #18
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No need to jack up..just take them off one at a time, snug the new ones on one at a time. Then go back and torque in a star pattern.
I can add further to that;
RV Travel.com had a neat suggestion last week:
Instead of using your fingers to slowly spin the nuts:.......
When spinning on/off the loosened nuts, use a battery drill/driver with an adapter for your socket. Just use it to spin off/on the nuts, then use your (calibrated) torque wrench afterwards; as above.
My 'Cloud has 3/4" nuts, and the spec calls for 110 ft.lbs., that's dry! No lube on the studs. If you do use lube, you will need to reduce the torque, and you had better know what your'e doing, or risk stud failure.

After torquing in the ' Star Pattern', then do a final' Round Robin' where you SLOWLY recheck each stud in the round circle. You may find that you will get a little more on the torque.
Then the protocol is to recheck after 50, 100, 200 Miles, or KM. and before each trip.
Then: "Let the Adventure Begin!"
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:14 PM   #19
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2014 Airstream Manual calls for 110 for aluminum wheels and 100 for steel wheels.
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Old 01-03-2016, 03:21 PM   #20
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Very interesting on the torque specs. What is the difference in Airstream wheels and car/pickup wheels????? .....I know, Airstream get the job of replacing broken studs.$$$$$$$$$
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Old 01-03-2016, 03:52 PM   #21
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Airstream told me 125ft/lb for the 16' wheels I bought from them.

And thanks Arcticfox for reminding me to buy new lug nuts before I rotate the tires next spring. Got em on ebay for $65 delivered.
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Old 01-03-2016, 08:56 PM   #22
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You guys are getting pretty far along without establishing whether or not the wheels have conical-seat lug nut inserts, or if you should be using mag style shanked nuts.

Just as trailer wheels are not the same as passenger car/truck wheels, lug nuts from Canadian Tire that are made for conical-seat passenger car wheels may not be suitable for your trailer even though they will thread on.

Find out what wheels you have, and get exactly the right kind of lug nuts.
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:29 PM   #23
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There is a lot to be said about how wheels fit up to the hub flange and lug nuts!! It is amazing to me how poor the design is on after market wheels and once in a while on factory set ups. I would only use wheels that I am sure will run concentric with the hub. The best fit is when the center hole of the wheel is a good slip fit onto the center shoulder where the bearing cap sits, not all wheels do this. Sometimes the conical holes and angular face of the lug nuts work together to make the wheel run concentric. Sometimes the straight sided shoulders on the nuts run in slots and the bolts are supposed to all work together to center the wheel but unless the wheel is a tight fit onto the center hub they don't necessarily run true. Check out what is it that guarantees that your wheel runs true and make sure that you understand how it works! I only run wheels that fit the center hole on the hub and also use tapered nuts and holes. I also lube the threads and rubbing surfaces of the nuts and torque carefully and I've never had a lug nut come loose and don't wear out the threads. Conventional wisdom says don't lube wheel lug threads because that will let them come loose but that has not been my experience using WD40. I have seen a lot of messed up wheel studs on other peoples wheels. Your mileage may vary. Leland
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:39 PM   #24
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You guys are getting pretty far along without establishing whether or not the wheels have conical-seat lug nut inserts, or if you should be using mag style shanked nuts.



Just as trailer wheels are not the same as passenger car/truck wheels, lug nuts from Canadian Tire that are made for conical-seat passenger car wheels may not be suitable for your trailer even though they will thread on.



Find out what wheels you have, and get exactly the right kind of lug nuts.


Ok so now I'm at a loss again, Conical-seat lugs or mag style, I have no idea. How does one tell? Here is a link to the wheels I have. Allied wheel #870-66060
http://www.alliedwheel.com/wheel.php?name=Series+870


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Ok so now I'm at a loss again, Conical-seat lugs or mag style, I have no idea. How does one tell? Here is a link to the wheels I have. Allied wheel #870-66060
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They have a 1-800 number. Call them, send them an email, or both. Calling them insures that they can't ignore you; sending them an email insures that they don't mis-interpret the wheel number you are going to have to give them.
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Just to finish off the conversation. I contacted Allied and they have confirmed that my wheels have conical seat. So we should be away with the 64000 lugs.
Thanks everyone for your input

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Those wheels almost for sure won't be a good fit onto the hub but conical nut seats should line them up OK. On these type of wheels I run 2 lug nuts down finger tight to hold the wheel back to the flange and put on all the lug nuts, then tighten each one a little more with my fingers rotating the tire as I go to let all the nuts center into the tapered holes. I just like my wheels to run concentric with the hubs. I also rinse out the nuts with a good shot of WD40 while holding them over a rag to make sure there is no crud in the threads. I really hate it when I hear an air wrench having to work hard getting a nut all the way off. Leland
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Thanks for this Leland. I'm going to take the old lugs off tomorrow and install the new ones.
Thanks again

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