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10-08-2015, 12:52 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Prospect Heights
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What newer trailers CAN I tow? Honda Pilot
So, i have been wanting to buy a pop-up trailer for a while. I am getting on in age and tent camping no longer really suites me. Then I realized that Airstream makes smaller trailers. My problem seems to be my tow vehicle though. I currently drive a 2014 Honda Pilot touring 4wd. I dont really want to upsize my vehicle in the next ten years. I like this size vehicle but wished Honda would put a V8 in it. So, my question really is, which current models can I actually tow safely? Current to me is five years or newer.
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10-08-2015, 12:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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What is your rated tow weight?
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10-08-2015, 01:09 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Prospect Heights
, Illinois
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
What is your rated tow weight?
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I think it is 4500 lbs
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10-08-2015, 01:28 PM
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1 Rivet Member
Prospect Heights
, Illinois
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I forgot to add that my max car capacity would be two adults and two kids ages 9 and 12.
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10-08-2015, 01:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Shasta Lake
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
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The wiggle room I mentioned is for your other camp stuff you'll load in your Pilot.
Keeping the trailer loaded weight below the gross 3500# will give you better performance and less wear and tear on the Pilot.
Our past 2 17' Casitas both weighed 3250# loaded while on the road camping.
If your average size you will find the Casita very comfortable.
Matter of fact we liked the Casita wet bathroom so much I installed one in our '69 25' AS.
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10-08-2015, 01:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Shasta Lake
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Well there's the rub 4 people.
So perhaps a Casita for the adults and an awning room enclosure or a pop up tent for the kids.
BTW I believe the payload capacity of the Pilot only includes a 150# driver.
Also check out Casita Travel Trailer Forum Gene the web master has an awning room on his Casita and you should be able to find pic's of it.
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10-08-2015, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 25' Classic
Full Time
, Texas
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I've owned a Casita, 2 adults and two growing kids is not a recipe for enjoyment unless you do the tent. The three of us, myself, my wife and college aged daughter was able to do it and have a good time. The rear dinette made up into a full time 54" bed for wife and kid and I slept on the 24" x 72" dinette bed. One more child and guess who would be sleeping outside?
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10-08-2015, 03:19 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Holly Springs
, Mississippi
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Maybe look at a Jayco hybrid?
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10-08-2015, 03:46 PM
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Rivet Master
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St. Catharines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rktect1
I think it is 4500 lbs
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Are you sure it is only 4,500lbs. I have seen a number of Pilots in these parts towing Airstreams.
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10-08-2015, 03:56 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2015 16' Sport
Santa Rosa
, California
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We have a 2005 Pilot. Our max tow rating for a trailer is 3500 lbs. (boat is 4500lbs). We tow our Airstream Sport 16 with the Pilot. The trailer max weight is 3500 lbs, I have weighed ours "camp ready" and it comes in just under 3300 lbs. The Pilot pulls it fine, but on steep grades like driving up to Lake Tahoe, the engine works hard at times. Read your owners manual, you have to allow for passengers (150 lbs each is what they calculate), gear and gas which gets subtracted from tow capacity. I did the math and we are at our limit. Ours tows very stable but I would not tow anything heavier.
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10-08-2015, 05:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
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If you want it to be an Airstream you'll be limited to a 16' sport with a max weight of 3500#. Anything larger and you're looking at max trailer weights of 4500# leaving you no margin.
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10-08-2015, 05:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Shasta Lake
, California
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Well you might want to keep looking at tent trailers. Use the gross weight rating of the trailer as your max limit of 3500#.
Be careful as some of those have a large frontal area when folded down that would act like a larger trailer.
BTW if you get some other brand and still want an Airstream you could always put a sticker on it
Like I did to my 13' Casita I took to AlumaFandango before I finished or '69 Tradewind
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10-08-2015, 05:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 28' Classic
austin
, Texas
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What about your original idea of getting a popup. We had one when we were traveling with our kids and just loved it. The amount of room you have when opened up is amazing and the large beds (ours had a king at one end, queen at the other, and the dinette made another bed) allow for easily sleeping four plus some friends of the kids at times. There is something wonderful about sleeping in those "tents" that cover the beds too...and yet you are out of the dirt and the wet. Easy towing and can be stored in most garages. The major drawback for me was not having a real bathroom.....although when younger I didn't mind it.
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10-08-2015, 05:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
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We have a 2011 Honda Pilot Touring with tow package and it is rated at 3500lb tow rating. We have towed our Coleman Niagara Popup and were maxed out with that, I'd go 1-2 hrs but not much more then that and not on hills.
It gets worse MPG then our diesel Excursion with a 30' Airstream.
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10-09-2015, 06:20 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Prospect Heights
, Illinois
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Ntex, my original ORIGINAL idea was to wait ten years to buy an Airstream. At that point i would buy a larger vehicle with a V8, something like the Sequoia. I was thinking about a length between 21-25 feet as i just dont want to be pulling a super large trailer. In the meantime, i was going to look at the Jayco's 12U. But of course Airstream keeps pulling me towards it.
It seems like a few on here do think the 16' Sport can be pulled by my Pilot but nothing bigger and I really have to watch my weight.
Or, buy a bigger tow vehicle. I really dont want to move up to the next size SUV, but might consider it if i could get to a 19' trailer. I have the 2014 with about 30,000 miles. If i wait another year and 15,000 miles i might be in the market by spring 2017.
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10-09-2015, 06:26 AM
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1 Rivet Member
Prospect Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
We have a 2011 Honda Pilot Touring with tow package and it is rated at 3500lb tow rating. We have towed our Coleman Niagara Popup and were maxed out with that, I'd go 1-2 hrs but not much more then that and not on hills.
It gets worse MPG then our diesel Excursion with a 30' Airstream.
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When i owned my previous Pilot, the 2008, i got terrible mpg. It really upset me as the sticker said 20 hwy and 15 city. Well, in reality i was getting 11-12 city during fall winter and early spring and maybe 14 in the summer. And max 19 hwy. but the 2014 is giving me improved mpg around 14-15 city and 22 hwy.
Not great but....
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10-09-2015, 06:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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My camping friends have a newer Honda Pilot and the largest Coleman pop up I have seen. I can't remember the model. It has a king bed on one end and a slide out dinette, though. It is a nice, roomy unit. I don't recall what it weighs, but it has to be at the top when it comes to pop ups. I have traveled with them. The Pilot does an ok job. It is about maxed out from what I can tell, though. The mountains really slow it down.
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10-09-2015, 07:16 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 22' FB Sport
Barrie
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2015
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If I were you I would get in touch with Andy at Can Am RV and get his opinion. They are the experts at people who want to tow with something less than a pickup.
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10-09-2015, 07:25 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
St. Catharines
, South Western Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lhunter59
If I were you I would get in touch with Andy at Can Am RV and get his opinion. They are the experts at people who want to tow with something less than a pickup.
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For sure... In a previous post I believe Andy reported that they had set up hundreds of 3.5 V6 Honda Mini Vans, Honda Ridgelines, and Honda Pilots.
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