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Old 10-08-2015, 06:25 PM   #15
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We have a 2011 Honda Pilot Touring with tow package and it is rated at 3500lb tow rating. We have towed our Coleman Niagara Popup and were maxed out with that, I'd go 1-2 hrs but not much more then that and not on hills.

It gets worse MPG then our diesel Excursion with a 30' Airstream.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:20 AM   #16
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Ntex, my original ORIGINAL idea was to wait ten years to buy an Airstream. At that point i would buy a larger vehicle with a V8, something like the Sequoia. I was thinking about a length between 21-25 feet as i just dont want to be pulling a super large trailer. In the meantime, i was going to look at the Jayco's 12U. But of course Airstream keeps pulling me towards it.

It seems like a few on here do think the 16' Sport can be pulled by my Pilot but nothing bigger and I really have to watch my weight.

Or, buy a bigger tow vehicle. I really dont want to move up to the next size SUV, but might consider it if i could get to a 19' trailer. I have the 2014 with about 30,000 miles. If i wait another year and 15,000 miles i might be in the market by spring 2017.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:26 AM   #17
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We have a 2011 Honda Pilot Touring with tow package and it is rated at 3500lb tow rating. We have towed our Coleman Niagara Popup and were maxed out with that, I'd go 1-2 hrs but not much more then that and not on hills.

It gets worse MPG then our diesel Excursion with a 30' Airstream.
When i owned my previous Pilot, the 2008, i got terrible mpg. It really upset me as the sticker said 20 hwy and 15 city. Well, in reality i was getting 11-12 city during fall winter and early spring and maybe 14 in the summer. And max 19 hwy. but the 2014 is giving me improved mpg around 14-15 city and 22 hwy.

Not great but....
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:46 AM   #18
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My camping friends have a newer Honda Pilot and the largest Coleman pop up I have seen. I can't remember the model. It has a king bed on one end and a slide out dinette, though. It is a nice, roomy unit. I don't recall what it weighs, but it has to be at the top when it comes to pop ups. I have traveled with them. The Pilot does an ok job. It is about maxed out from what I can tell, though. The mountains really slow it down.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:16 AM   #19
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If I were you I would get in touch with Andy at Can Am RV and get his opinion. They are the experts at people who want to tow with something less than a pickup.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:25 AM   #20
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If I were you I would get in touch with Andy at Can Am RV and get his opinion. They are the experts at people who want to tow with something less than a pickup.
For sure... In a previous post I believe Andy reported that they had set up hundreds of 3.5 V6 Honda Mini Vans, Honda Ridgelines, and Honda Pilots.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:33 AM   #21
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Our first RV was a Dolphin micro mini motorhome on a Toyota chassis back in the 80s. We decided to switch to a towable and got a pop up. Big mistake. Even though the pop up had roof air it couldn't keep the inside cool enough until the sun went down and handle any humidity and the furnace couldn't keep us warm enough. Because the fabric was vinyl coated, condensation would form on the inside of the canvas and start dripping onto the beds when it was cool outside. The thin plywood bed shelves offered no insulation and one cold morning in Colorado was enough for us. We lived in Texas at the time so the two week trip to Colorado showed us popups are useless in the heat and cold. I purchased a small tote tank on wheels to collect the gray water and the first time I tried to move it discovered how heavy water is.

I guess the reason we hated the pop up was coming from a fully insulated motorhome with holding tanks etc was too much of a downsize. Coming from a tent our expectations might have been different.

Look at some of the hard sided A frame popups. They should insulate better. If you go canvas don't bother with all the frills like furnace and AC since they are useless in a large tent.

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Old 10-09-2015, 08:39 AM   #22
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Go for the popup. It will be the lightest trailer per volume and super easy to tow. My old Coleman was about 12 long closed and about 22 feet long opened. It had larger beds than my current 27 foot Airstream. I stored it in my garage. Now I have to pay to store the Airstream at a yard. For the most part Airstream trailers are meant for 2 adults. Popups do 4 or 5 easily. We waited till the kids were gone to get the Airstream.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:50 AM   #23
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Maybe you want to take a look of the Chalet XL 1920 A frame pop-up which has the bunk beds or other XL pop-up trailer.
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Old 10-09-2015, 11:32 AM   #24
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Maybe you want to take a look of the Chalet XL 1920 A frame pop-up which has the bunk beds or other XL pop-up trailer.
We looked at these before getting our AS. We also had a Pilot. The problem with the A-frames is that setting up in the rain means everything inside gets wet unless the rain is coming STRAIGHT down, which it seldom does.

In the end we traded in the Pilot for a Dodge Durango SUV and tow a 20' AS.
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I bought a V8 pickup to overcome that problem and then got the trailer I wanted.
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I know you said newer trailer, but you might consider a well kept or restored vintage trailer. They're much lighter than the new ones.
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When i owned my previous Pilot, the 2008, i got terrible mpg. It really upset me as the sticker said 20 hwy and 15 city. Well, in reality i was getting 11-12 city during fall winter and early spring and maybe 14 in the summer. And max 19 hwy. but the 2014 is giving me improved mpg around 14-15 city and 22 hwy.

Not great but....
I should clarify my Excursion while towing gets better than the Pilot when the Pilot is/was towing the popup. I just could not figure it out, it was right around 10 mpg while towing.

I'm not sure what it gets while not towing, its my wife's car and I never drive it otherwise.
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My camping friends have a newer Honda Pilot and the largest Coleman pop up I have seen. I can't remember the model. It has a king bed on one end and a slide out dinette, though. It is a nice, roomy unit. I don't recall what it weighs, but it has to be at the top when it comes to pop ups. I have traveled with them. The Pilot does an ok job. It is about maxed out from what I can tell, though. The mountains really slow it down.
The largest Coleman popup was the Avalon. It had a 16' box and tandem axle. It was called a "High-wall" because it had full counter height walls.

Ours is the Niagara. It has a 14' box and single axle. I love popups but much work. I could not see towing the Avalon with my Pilot, it just seems too taxed.
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