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Old 01-31-2014, 06:35 AM   #2899
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As a former geologist for 25 years I can tell you diesel will never be cheap again when it is in such worldwide demand. It powers all those container ships bringing in your spinach from South America, all those China, India, and thousands of other globally produced things we Americans buy.
We export diesel and liquified natural gas.
Can we fix it? Yes. Buy local when possible.
Thanks, I try.. Guess I'll never get to drive a diesel. I can't justify a 20% price differential..
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Old 02-01-2014, 11:45 AM   #2900
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Thanks, I try.. Guess I'll never get to drive a diesel. I can't justify a 20% price differential..
Once you drive one, it will become much easier to justify. The fuel economy and available torque are definite opinion changers. My Sprinter and BMW X5 are diesel and would have them no other way. For automotive use, the smaller 4 cylinder diesel, that most domestic, european and asian manufactures are bring to market, also deliver fuel economy but each owner will have to 'run the numbers' to see if the return on fuel savings justifies the more expensive initial investment and additional fuel costs. I like the fact that a diesel engine, just because of the higher compression requirements of the present generation diesel engines, has to be built more substantially. While gas engined vehicles do not have the robustness of a diesel because of the lower compression ratios. Also, all manufacturers are looking to lighten their vehicles for CAFE (corporate average fuel economy) requirements. This also includes the engines. There have really lightened the gas motors up but the diesels have to be strong because of compression ratios. So in the justification process one should also determine if they plan on having the vehicle for a real long time, as I do, or are planning to not have it for a shorter time.
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Old 02-08-2014, 05:39 PM   #2901
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$3.09 in Santa Fe. Was $3.20 in Grand Junction early in the week.

This thread only pops up when prices rise, but they have been falling. Must have something to do with winter.

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Old 02-08-2014, 05:50 PM   #2902
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$2.98/ regular, $3.30 premium at the HEB in Rockport, TX. I believe a Valero station had regular for $2.96 yesterday, $2.97 today.
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:02 PM   #2903
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$3.09 in Santa Fe. Was $3.20 in Grand Junction early in the week.

This thread only pops up when prices rise, but they have been falling. Must have something to do with winter.

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Hi, the gas prices are going up again; $3.83 to $3.97 for Premium. Must be because we don't really have a winter here.
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$2.69 and $3.69 for diesel.
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Old 02-09-2014, 06:44 AM   #2905
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Filled the diesel tank in the car here in Birmingham, UK and it worked out to about $8.00 per gallon. Gasoline (95 octane) was about $6.46 per gallon.
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$3.99 for diesel here yesterday. I guess "Kermit" is going to sit in the garage for a while
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:48 AM   #2907
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Bob, you'd better get to Oregon fast. I think it runs at least 20 less there. It went down a penny in Santa Fe yesterday.

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Here in North Las Vegas diesel is: $3.68 to 3.83 per gal.
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:06 PM   #2909
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Regular went up 9 overnight in Santa Fe. Must be better gas than yesterday.

I wanted to fill up the day before yesterday, but my wife said "no, do it later". How shall I punish her? Maybe I'll eat all the cookies.

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Hi, the gas prices are going up again; $3.83 to $3.97 for Premium. Must be because we don't really have a winter here.
Hi, just to add to the confusion, the Shell station who had Premium
for $3.97 went up 2 cents to $3.99, and the Union 76 who was $3.83 went down 2 cents to $3.81 per gallon.
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Reg $3.23 / Diesel $3.85

Diesel continues to hover around $0.50/gal more. It is a hard sell for diesel right now.

Consider that an F150 gets 21mpg hwy. not towing, and a VW sportwagen 39mpg@70mph avg. (owned both) In 10,000 miles that is about $550 difference- and there is nearly twice the difference in mpg between these two. Between and F150 and 250 diesel the tow vehicle mpg difference is slight plus the F250 diesel costs $8400 more than the F250 gas model. With a 2-3 mpg or so difference in towing it will take a LONG time to break even.
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West Texas Intermediate was at $100 today and so we can expect rising prices. WTI was in the low 90's just a month ago.

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