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Old 03-28-2012, 11:30 AM   #2535
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I saw a story this week that confirmed something I'd read some time ago. Prices are lower in the Rockies because there aren't enough pipelines to ship refined fuel out of the area, so we have a glut here.

There is a gigantic terminal in Cushing, Okla., and I believe this where the bottleneck is. The Keystone pipeline lower leg (Cushing to the Gulf Coast) will relieve the bottleneck, our prices will go up to world prices, and the refined product will be shipped out of the country. When the entire pipeline is built, the crude from Canada will go to the Coast and be sent out of the country.

The Keystone pipeline has become totally politicized. It won't help prices here.

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Bingo! We are in a world market now and this is just the start of things to come. We rail against government intervention and want the free market to decide on prices. We are about to get what we asked for. Why should our oil companies sell gas here for $3.60 a gallon when they can ship it elsewhere and make far more. It is not about supply, it is all about profit. Think about that for a bit.

We are still paying $3.70 or so a gallon for regular here in the Eastern Washington area.
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Old 03-28-2012, 10:40 PM   #2536
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:20 PM   #2537
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What surprises me most about this is that the pump would run to $180. Most of the pumps around here require you to swipe the card again at $100. Maybe you paid cash?
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Old 03-28-2012, 11:38 PM   #2538
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I did pay cash, saving $.09 a gallon, or almost $4. Normally I try to fill up before the C note cut off.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:04 AM   #2539
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Thumbs down And Now That We Have Bailed Out The Big Banks

They are soliciting the speculators so as they can offer discounts to their credit card customers to buy fuel, and make us pay for the whole shebang!.. My guess is that the Banks think that they will live on, when the rest of us have been forced into an early grave!

We'd have thought that by now, the executives of Big Bank could figure out 2+2... 'WOOF', our bad!

On another affront, we the people are greeted with a very High Salaried and their retirement benefits Congress! Absolutely Numbing!!


Now again, if my memory serves me correctly, I aced my math test way back in 1951 in the early stages of grade school. And, by the way, my lucky # to this very day!

No Thanks To Big Banks, some of us have survived into 2012! I would think that it is high time ( for them to give back and help US out, for some change! ).
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:41 AM   #2540
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What surprises me most about this is that the pump would run to $180. Most of the pumps around here require you to swipe the card again at $100. Maybe you paid cash?
It appears that many of the gas/diesel stations are run by people who cannot think. I filled up last week with diesel and the pump cut off at $75. It always makes me mad when I must insert the card for a second time in order to fill up. I tend to avoid the stations in the future that cut off at a rediculous $ amount. The people that run these stations do not care since they get a pay check regardless.

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Old 03-29-2012, 10:48 AM   #2541
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It appears that many of the gas/diesel stations are run by people who cannot think. I filled up last week with diesel and the pump cut off at $75. It always makes me mad when I must insert the card for a second time in order to fill up. I tend to avoid the stations in the future that cut off at a rediculous $ amount. The people that run these stations do not care since they get a pay check regardless.

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My Excursion has a 45 gallon tank. I have to run my card three times to fill up! I agree, it is very irritating.
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Old 03-29-2012, 01:27 PM   #2542
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Holy cow, how far can you drive your Excursion on 45 gallons? Is each swipe of the card $100 bucks?
When I worked at a gas station in high school, during the '79 gas crisis, the pumps wouldn't go higher than .50 cents a gallon, so we had to sell gas by the liter, which was like .29 cents a liter for regular, and somehow worked with the pumps. This was with the old mechanical, spinning number pumps; you'd think that the newer gas pumps could be easily set to take more than 100.00 for a sale.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:43 PM   #2543
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Holy cow, how far can you drive your Excursion on 45 gallons? Is each swipe of the card $100 bucks?
When I worked at a gas station in high school, during the '79 gas crisis, the pumps wouldn't go higher than .50 cents a gallon, so we had to sell gas by the liter, which was like .29 cents a liter for regular, and somehow worked with the pumps. This was with the old mechanical, spinning number pumps; you'd think that the newer gas pumps could be easily set to take more than 100.00 for a sale.
the pumps i have been going to cut off at $75. I can usually make it about 520 miles or so with out the AS about 435 with. The bigger tank means I have to stop for gas less. with an excursion and a 34' i am pushing 55' overall length! Diesel would make it a little easier because of the truck bays. The car side can get hairy sometimes....i tend to "push" my way in sometimes to get the room that I want. My wife say I drive like an a$$ when I do that, but you do what you have to do!
I had a mercedes 300 SD turbodiesel in grad school that would go about 645 miles on a 20 gal tank (I had 498,000 on the odometer when I sold it!) the excursion V10 does not do that... but i still love the ex!
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:54 PM   #2544
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Lowest we saw in Denver was $3.67 2 days ago. Rocky Mountain prices are getting close to the national average. The party is over.

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I like to stop at truck stops for diesel. They usually have good prices, lots of room, designed to get in and out easy, and an air hose in your lane. The fill rate from the larger fill nozzle is a lot faster! Never seen one that took master card, visa, or debt card at the pump though.

Anyone get one of those Fuel Cards they take? I wouldn't think it has a limit on it either. Many times I have pulled in and seen the last sale over $300...
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Old 03-29-2012, 05:28 PM   #2546
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Low end of the scale...If you want to see the high end (starting w Netherlands at $6.48) .check out CNN Money...shall we all move to Venezuela where it is .12 cents a gallon..

Estonia Tallinn $3.62
Bulgaria Sofia $3.52
Brazil Brasilia $3.12
Cuba Havana $3.03
Taiwan Taipei $2.84
Lebanon Beirut $2.63
South Africa Johannesburg $2.62
Nicaragua Managua $2.61
Panama Panama City $2.19
Russia Moscow $2.10
Puerto Rico San Juan $1.74
Saudi Arabia Riyadh $0.91
Kuwait Kuwait City $0.78
Egypt Cairo $0.65
Nigeria Lagos $0.38
Venezuela Caracas $0.12
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We should enjoy our good fortune - diesel was just under $7/gal in Italy last week. You can bet the Keystone pipeline would result in Canadian oil going to Europe to reap the extra profits.
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Hi, I don't like the pumps that shut off at $75.00 or even $100.00; Especially when traveling, I want it full. More irritating is when the pump shuts off at a given amount and won't let you pump again unless you bring your card into the store for the second chance to get a full tank.
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