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12-14-2010, 01:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
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Too much!
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12-14-2010, 04:34 PM
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#2142
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Rivet Master
2002 27' Safari
Carmel-by-the-Sea
, California
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,388
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"except for California which is special"
Today's special on diesel is $3.79 in my over priced neighborhood
I'll let you know when in reaches $4.00 in time for Christmas!
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12-14-2010, 04:40 PM
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#2143
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Loretto
, Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 507
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In Ontario Canada $1.10 / L about $4.40 /G
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12-14-2010, 05:03 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2003 30' Classic S/O
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 41
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Interesting thread to pick random pages and see where we've been.
First post "Diesel is now running @ $1.72"
Wouldn't that be nice?
-DK
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AIR: 48965
TAC: MN-7
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12-14-2010, 05:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 27' Safari
Carmel-by-the-Sea
, California
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,388
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKAir
Interesting thread to pick random pages and see where we've been.
First post "Diesel is now running @ $1.72"
Wouldn't that be nice?
-DK
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the good ole' days of 2003
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12-15-2010, 05:15 AM
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#2146
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Rivet Master
1969 25' Tradewind
Irmo
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 744
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$2.98 at Sam's Club last night.
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Unrestored 1969 25' Tradewind
Overkill Tow Vehicle of the Year Award:
2001 GMC 3500 4x4 Dually 6.6L Duramax
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12-15-2010, 07:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 973
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Currently in Austin, TX, diesel is $3.09 and regular gas is wavering around $2.75-$2.79. Trend is up 10c in the last week.
Which inspires me to start a new thread!
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12-15-2010, 11:07 AM
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,309
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Fuel Price
Great thread!
It would be helpful if the product (gas/diesel) was specified each post. At certain times of the season one is cheaper than the other, and clarity would help.
Currently on the Isand: Gas 111.9/L and Diesel 109.9/L. Conversion is $ 3.7854 Liter per US gallon. US price then would be $4.235 US gallon for gas and $ 4.16 for diesel.
Dave
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12-15-2010, 11:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Huntington Beach
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,293
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So Cal
Like everybody, I am seeing the trend of yesteryear, paid $3.59 for diesel here in So Cal. Regular gas at he same location was $3.19. Here we go!
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12-16-2010, 12:08 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Hi, I haven't bought any gas lately, but it goes for about $3.35 for regular and up about $.10 per grade and Diesel on top.
Regular.............$3.35
Mid Grade..........$3.45
Premium............$3.55
Diesel...............$3.65
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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12-16-2010, 10:58 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
, Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,059
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$1.046 per liter for 87 octane Regular at Ultramar in Cobourg. Cheapest gas around, everywhere else is $1.08 to $1.10. Even higher some places in the city, from $1.01up to $1.249
$1.046 L= $3.98US Gal
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12-17-2010, 08:05 AM
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moderator
Commercial Member
2016 27' International
Currently Looking...
Wilton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,711
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$1.046 L= $3.98US Gal
I guess we shouldn't complain huh
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12-17-2010, 12:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Hi, today at the local "76" Station; No Diesel here.
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Bob 2005 Safari 25-B
"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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12-17-2010, 01:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
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I would love to complain, but whos listening? Sal.
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12-17-2010, 02:32 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noreen
I would love to complain, but whos listening? Sal.
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Isn't the real questions who is to blame?
If we weren't sucking it down at the fantastic rate of around 400 MILLION gallons per day (can you believe that?), it wouldn't be so expensive, I figger...
But we still think it's always going to be available, so why worry about it?
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12-17-2010, 02:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 27' Excella II
mays landing
, South Jersey
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,179
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Since I retired in Sept., I have put 40$ worth in my daily driver, and 50 $ in my TV> So dont blame me. Sal.
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12-17-2010, 05:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,376
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
Isn't the real questions who is to blame?
If we weren't sucking it down at the fantastic rate of around 400 MILLION gallons per day (can you believe that?), it wouldn't be so expensive, I figger...
But we still think it's always going to be available, so why worry about it?
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Hi, if that's the case we should be getting a volume discount, shouldn't we? And I will be gone, before we run out, I'm sure.
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"Le Petit Chateau Argent" Small Silver Castle
2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
YAMAHA 2400 / AIR #12144
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12-18-2010, 10:03 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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OK, Bob, I'll tell my kids that.
Actually, we will probably not run out for a very long time. What is more likely to happen is that prices will eventually rise to the point that most people just won't be able to afford it.
Of course, at that point, "alternate energy" better have been made a huge priority, otherwise, store shelves will start to look pretty bare...
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12-18-2010, 11:58 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Humans just don't deal with things until there's a major crisis, and then they don't always deal with it very well. Denial may work for some things for a while, but it's terrible planning. I pretty much agree with Aage. After all, Alberta is willing to destroy the NE part of the province to provide us with oil and the US' NE is full of natural gas that can be extracted by poisoning water supplies by hydrofracing. "Fracing" uses all sorts of dangerous and toxic chemicals to open up fissures in shale to extract gas. We've been doing that in parts of Colorado and NM for years.
At present prices for gas in the US, considering inflation, it costs about the same as it did when I first started driving, but as soon as the world economy gets going better, prices will go up and I think the life of this thread is assured. We are falling further and further behind other countries (Germany, China and several others) on renewable technology because oil, gas and coal companies control Congress. I am unsure which language I should learn: Chinese, Portuguese (when Brasil takes over), Canadian, or what?
Gene
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12-18-2010, 04:41 PM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aage
Isn't the real questions who is to blame?
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Now that's an interesting question. To begin with, why should there be any blame? Fuel prices are set by supply and demand (albeit hugely distorted by governments) and current prices simply reflect flat supply and increasing demand. (The astronomical gas prices in some countries are due to taxes, not because gas is somehow rarer there.) There is no reason to blame anybody, aside from the infantile "I-am-not-happy-therefore-someone-is-to-blame".
I am often reminded of a great line in the 1993 novel/movie Rising Sun in which (as I remember) Japan-wise sempai Capt. Connor (played by Sean Connery) says to his kohai Lt. Smith (played by Wesley Snipes) "In Japan, kohai, things work. In this country, when there's a problem, we spend our effort fixing blame. In Japan, they fix the problem."
(In 1993 the Japanese were popularly perceived to be ten feet tall. Now they have reverted to their actual stature and the Chinese are thought to be ten feet tall. The bogeyman du jour is always ten feet tall, but the jour keeps changing.)
There is some truth to that quotation. In the US a great deal of energy is expended on blame because conflict is the country's leading growth industry, encompassing the government, the lawyers, and the media, all of which depend on conflict for their livelihoods.
Whenever the US gets tired of fixing blame and decides to fix the problem of high fuel prices there are proven technological solutions that can be applied. The US has plenty of coal and natural gas that could be converted to motor fuels if need be. These are not new technologies. In WW II the Germans ran their war machine on coal-derived fuels (Fischer-Tropsch process) and in South Africa, Sasol sasol has produced coal- and gas-derived motor fuels for years. I recently read somewhere that China is building a coal-derived fuel plant using the Mobil process which is expected to produce diesel fuel at a production cost of about $1.50 a gallon. (And I suspect that a gas-to-liquid fuel plant would have considerably less environmental impact than, say, a tar sands extraction operation.)
None of this will happen until oil prices get high enough to essentially shut down the US economy, at which point "fixing the problem" would trump the conflict industry. That could happen sooner that we think if OPEC decides to give up on the US dollar that the Fed is printing with such enthusiasm and start pricing their oil in, say, Chinese yuan.
But hopefully that won't happen, so y'all throw another (carbon-neutral) log on the fire, have another eggnog with your choice of (renewable) ethanol in it, and have a merry Christmas!
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