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Old 10-05-2008, 12:28 PM   #15
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Great photos! Did you scan the slides yourself? Really brings back that era.

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Yes, I scanned them. I gleaned them from my dad's slide collection.
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:10 PM   #16
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I've saved posts 12 & 19 from http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...eam-43348.html. Interesting ideas -- protecting the LP lines and a one-shot plywood deflector.

I've got a couple interesting impact star cracks on the rockguard over one of the pano windows on my Safari. That's from towing mostly on paved roads! What will it do with the baseball sized gravel on the Alcan? Oncoming truck will throw a lot of #&*@! at you. Bring something for jury rigging up some patches. Easiest for me would be a spare piece of plexiglass from ACE and pop rivets -- Frankinshield! It wouldn't be pretty but might do the job.
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:34 PM   #17
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Bob, The Alaska Hwy is paved except where there is construction or frost heaves. They use chip seal because it's easy and cheap to repair. The heaves are short pieces—a couple of feet or so, but gravel can fly. Gravel stuck in tires may travel a while. It would help everyone if mud guards were in front of tires as well as behind.

There is an irony in placing something in front of the rock guards to protect the rock guards.

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Old 10-05-2008, 03:48 PM   #18
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[QUOTE=CanoeStream;624231]I've saved posts 12 & 19 from http://www.airforums.com/forums/f437...eam-43348.html.

Bob, thanks for the link. Good information, especially about protecting propane lines and wires. I'm not sure whether I'd want to try the plywood protector—pretty heavy and makes it hard to get to the batteries.

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Old 10-05-2008, 03:56 PM   #19
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jim (jordandvm) just darted up/back to alaska in his argosy.

i'm sure he'd pm you details about any repair issues they experienced...

and HEY maybe he'd rent the argosy to ya for a trip next year....

here are a coupla threads on this...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ska-44007.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...log-43039.html

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ska-24311.html

however, given how MISERABLE your northwest loop seems to have been...

i dunno, you guys might REALLY hate adding 4k more miles to that section,

besides, once u've seen a moose or 2, u've seen 'em all (like rugged oregon beaches)...

and there are no trader joes on the alcan to highlight the trip...

seldom do i think a wb' caravan is the best way to travel, but in your case...

joining the wb' and taking some of their caravans might be a great approach to travel for awhile...

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Old 10-05-2008, 05:55 PM   #20
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2air, I said "borrow", not rent. Maybe yours will be available, though it's pretty big.

The NW trip was great, at least until we started getting bad news from back home I had to deal with, and a phone that didn't work well. We learned a lot, which we expected, and enjoyed many parts. Campgrounds are not so good a lot of times (the same for motels) and we'll learn to deal with that better. I want my laptop to work everywhere and that day hasn't arrived.

I prefer moose to stay at least 50' away, but they seem to have a bad habit of running into things. If they could be equipped with radar, then our radar detector could warn us—except a lot of places in Canada ban the detectors. Bears are smarter, despite their bad habit of ripping doors off and eating all the toothpaste and shampoo. A molecular disrupter could eliminate both problems. A force field around the rig is another possible solution; that'll keep the gravel and moose from hitting anything. We'll probably need a nuclear power plant to run all this stuff, though there could be weight problems unless we bring an anti-grav device to lift us partly off the road. Helium balloons in the trailer and truck bed might help lessen weight. We're not caravan kind of people, though I like the idea of a couple of mechanics following with all the parts we might need. They could also be chefs who prepare our meals, give massages and make the bed. Or we could have the Safari airlifted each morning to the next place we want to be; then we could drive a sports car—oh, to drift through the curves again.

While I assemble all that stuff (it should on the shelf at the nearest CIA store), we'll probably do it the conventional way. We perfected SUV travel as best we could, now we're trying a new way to travel and looking for a comfort level and avoiding reasonably avoidable problems. We also think of a return to Newfoundland with its 500,000 moose—they love windshields and landing in your lap. The roads there are built by a guy who designs rollercoasters.

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We just got back from our second driving trip to Alaska. We used mudflaps, pressure-pro tire pressure monitoring device, and some measure of common sense to drive according to the road conditions. For the most part, damage to the trailer was cosmetic...many tiny rock dings and a few larger dings. A rock broke the drain valve off the fresh water tank. Jim stuck something in the hole so the tank would hold water. The shaking and vibration may have loosened other things that we have yet to discover, but that will come in time. We did more damage to our trailer on I-35 in Texas than we ever did on the Alaska highway. We keep reminding ourselves we bought this trailer to use. 40k miles later it is still in pretty good shape and we've had a blast!

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Old 10-12-2008, 09:36 AM   #22
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Last year we made a 16,000 mile trip with our 2001 25ft Safari and by taking it easy (not driving Texas speeds) we did so without any damage to either the TV or Trailer. We did take some of the long unpaved roads since we wanted to see Alaska. We spent 6 weeks in Alaska doing just that. The main thing is to slow down and enjoy the scenery , DO NOT get in a HURRY. The people we encountered on the trip that had problems were (IMHO) were driving too fast for the road conditions or hadn't checked air pressure in tires for several days or even weeks.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:46 PM   #23
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My parents did it the first time in 1964 with our Airstream. The whole family went, it took a month. Since I was only 4, I don't remember too much. I know we had a rock guard on the front of the TV (pics at Roger's Airstream History (Round 2!)). I had heard stories of non-Airstreams (pre SOB terminology) having their underbelly tubing flattened by the rocks and their sheet metal screws work out. I DO remember that we had a total of 9 flat tires between both vehicles.
Those are great photos. I have viewed other pages with some of your slides that have been scanned and uploaded to the internet. They make me feel nostalgic and give me the wanderlust to get out and travel next summer. Maybe we will be able to do so. My kids are really getting to the age to start building those kind of memories.
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My parents did it the first time in 1964 with our Airstream. The whole family went, it took a month. Since I was only 4, I don't remember too much. I know we had a rock guard on the front of the TV (pics at Roger's Airstream History (Round 2!)). I had heard stories of non-Airstreams (pre SOB terminology) having their underbelly tubing flattened by the rocks and their sheet metal screws work out. I DO remember that we had a total of 9 flat tires between both vehicles.
Those are amazing photos, especially for the time. Your dad really captured the beauty of traveling in an Airstream, and with the family in tow--in the 60's yet! Thanks so much for taking the trouble to share them. Glad we got to meet that little kid all grown-up, brief as it was!
All the best to you and your great cook, Roxie.
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Last year we made a 16,000 mile trip with our 2001 25ft Safari and by taking it easy (not driving Texas speeds) we did so without any damage to either the TV or Trailer. We did take some of the long unpaved roads since we wanted to see Alaska. We spent 6 weeks in Alaska doing just that. The main thing is to slow down and enjoy the scenery , DO NOT get in a HURRY. The people we encountered on the trip that had problems were (IMHO) were driving too fast for the road conditions or hadn't checked air pressure in tires for several days or even weeks.
Wow, 16,000 miles! We drove 11,222 on our first trip to Alaska without a trailer and we were tired. We did it in 6 weeks. How long did your whole trip take? I do check tires pressures all the time with the TPMS, not sure what are appropriate speeds. Everyone has their own idea of that. Some of the gravel/dirt roads are so well maintained, we could go 50-60 (again without towing anything), others a lot less. The frost heaves on the paved roads require a lot of braking when I saw them, then getting back up to speed. Sometimes, they aren't marked well (although that's pretty rare). I recall the last miles of the Alaska Hwy (from the US/Canada border to Delta Jct) weren't very well maintained in 2002, but the Canadian portion of the highway was generally in good condition. Alaska roads in general weren't as good as those in Canada. The Dalton Hwy was generally very well maintained, but other Alaska unpaved roads we were on were marginal.

It's encouraging, Cap, that you had no problems.

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Thanks for posting those slides they were great! I have already shared them via email with some friends.

I have tons of my dad's and my slides that I want to scan. You're scanner seemed to do a nice job, would you share what brand / model it was. I have also thought about using one of the on-line services, I have read some good reviews about several of them and the price seems right.

I also enjoyed reading about everyone's experiences. Wow, what an experience. I met a guy last year here in MD who took his SOB Class A to AK and it about shook apart. He actually thought it would not make it. It was so bad that as he headed back down the west coast in CA (still on his trip) he traded it in on a more upscale / better built model (American Dream FYI). I don't think I would like to make the trip in a motorhome as I would likely freak-out listening all of the sounds/creaking etc. Better to have that "out of sight, out of mind" behind the vehicle!
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Gene , we were gone from home just over 3 months. As far as speeds in Alaska on paved roads we probly averaged around 40 mph while driving. That's not averaging in rest stops , lunch breaks and stopping to look at something that caught our eye & photo ops. Since I'm retired , I'm not in any big hurry. Checking air pressure in the tires is just part of my "getting ready to pull out in the morning before I hook up" routine. I keep the air pressure up to the max. amount posted on the sidewall of the tires.
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Thanks for posting those slides they were great! I have already shared them via email with some friends.

I have tons of my dad's and my slides that I want to scan. You're scanner seemed to do a nice job, would you share what brand / model it was. I have also thought about using one of the on-line services, I have read some good reviews about several of them and the price seems right.
My current scanner is a Canon CanoScan 4400F. It has a slot for slides and holds about 3-4 at a time. Does negatives also. I did some of the slides with that one. The other was a HP flatbed scanner at the office. So just a simple scanner that says it does slides should be fine. It is not a fast process though.
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