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Fly at Night · 08-21-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveSueMac

FaN - Planes, Trains and Automobiles is our favorite John Candy movie. Required watching on Thanksgiving! Guy was a genius!

Mine too! I watch it whenever I need a laugh.

Fly at Night · 08-21-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by switz

Gene Hackman's western home is in our subdivision (not Arizona). A very private person whom I have never seen at the neighborhood HOA meetings. He does smile and wave while driving his Land Rover in/out of the subdivision. Glad he and his family have some piece and quiet.

I think it would be an major pain in the backside to live in the "Gold Fish Bowl" many movie/singers etc find themselves in after a certain level of success.

I agree - he deserves that tranquility.

I don't understand people who think they are entitled to a piece of someone, celebrity or not.

Gene · 08-21-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fly at Night

You mentioned Abby Hoffman. The irony is that the hippies/yippes thought they could change things, but were also viewed as a strange breed. The counterculture's quest for that gonzo utopia dissipated, but many facets became mainstream.

I often wonder if those counterculturists view that dissipation with regret....or relief?

Regret. We certainly didn't stop wars. A lot has changed though the anti-change party wields a lot of power. Colorado is a middle of the road state, but has recognized marijuana prohibition is impossible. Civil liberties are in danger—voting, privacy are 2 problem areas (NSA is on every thread, but never posts anything). Society is not static and moves forward with difficulty, but for hundreds of years has moved in a progressive direction.

Gene

Fly at Night · 08-21-2013, 03:03 PM

Regret.

This clip from Five Easy Pieces is the ultimate metaphor....

Five Easy Pieces Diner Scene - YouTube

Protagonist · 08-21-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fly at Night

The irony is that the hippies/yippes thought they could change things, but were also viewed as a strange breed.

The irony for me is that hippies were anti-establishment, but still needed electricity from the establishment to power their electric guitars!

Gene · 08-21-2013, 06:41 PM

Air guitars don't need any electricity.

Gene

JDS · 08-21-2013, 06:48 PM

Nor do acoustic guitars.

John S.

Fly at Night · 08-21-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Protagonist

The irony for me is that hippies were anti-establishment, but still needed electricity from the establishment to power their electric guitars!

And establishment fuel for the VW bus

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Watch The Hippie VW Bus Go! - YouTube

dirigible25 · 08-21-2013, 09:38 PM

Regrets in that concepts like peace, love and understanding has morphed into a liberal, socialist give away programs that are more of a hand out than a hand up. Regrets that some of the ideals have turned into less than ideal realities. I could go on, but then lines get drawn and it moves us away from the unity we have, which is AS ownership and enjoyment.

dirigible25 · 08-21-2013, 10:23 PM

FaN, I just saw your post in the August photo contest. I always knew you were clever, but know I also know that you are crafty

Fly at Night · 08-21-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dirigible25

Regrets in that concepts like peace, love and understanding has morphed into a liberal, socialist give away programs that are more of a hand out than a hand up. Regrets that some of the ideals have turned into less than ideal realities. I could go on, but then lines get drawn and it moves us away from the unity we have, which is AS ownership and enjoyment.

I guess I succumbed to some of those liberal ideations tonight, dirigible....
used the outdoor shower with nothing but the moon and stars overhead.

However, there were no hand ups (or outs)....
I did it alone.

(Fellow Airstreamers, if you get a chance, try it. It's really nice. There are some portable shower enclosures, if you must).

Lily&Me · 08-22-2013, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fly at Night

I guess I succumbed to some of those liberal ideations tonight, dirigible....
used the outdoor shower with nothing but the moon and stars overhead.

However, there were no hand ups (or outs)....
I did it alone.

(Fellow Airstreamers, if you get a chance, try it. It's really nice. There are some portable shower enclosures, if you must).

Good for you! How many of us can say we have done this?!

Ummm, not me.

FWIW, we were in a forest campground recently in Vermont that had listed in its' rules "no public nudity". We wondered if this referred to outside showering or other events sans clothing.

Maggie

Protagonist · 08-22-2013, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doug&maggie

FWIW, we were in a forest campground recently in Vermont that had listed in its' rules "no public nudity". We wondered if this referred to outside showering or other events sans clothing.

Vermont does not have a law forbidding nudity; they only limit it to areas "where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy." Which apparently includes most wilderness areas. I guess the campground had to post the "No public nudity" rule because state law doesn't prohibit it.

I first found out about this quirk of Vermont law while planning to do America's Great Loop, which includes Lake Champlain. On the AGLCA Forums, one member told how he chased off a party boat that moored too close and kept him awake all night. He finally drove them off by attending to all of his boating chores in the nude; he admits it wasn't a pretty sight.

When the party boaters called the law on him, the state trooper told the party boaters that on one's own boat, anchored in the middle of a lake, he had a reasonable expectation of privacy and so he wasn't doing anything wrong. Instead, the party boaters were cited for invading his privacy!

I gave up aspirations of doing the Great Loop in favor of Airstreaming, but I never forgot that story.

jimmini · 08-22-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fly at Night

I guess I succumbed to some of those liberal ideations tonight, dirigible....
used the outdoor shower with nothing but the moon and stars overhead.

However, there were no hand ups (or outs)....
I did it alone.

(Fellow Airstreamers, if you get a chance, try it. It's really nice. There are some portable shower enclosures, if you must).

Will not comment about the hands or lack of them.

Hope you did not let the shower water run on the ground.Thats gray water and God,the rangers,the tree huggers and the Haz Mat crew that has to come clean up after you will get you.I didnt think hippies did that to our envirement.

IT MAY BE GODLY,BUT NOT SMART,TO BAPTIZE A BOBCAT.

Fly at Night · 08-23-2013, 02:06 AM

Maggie and Pro, our local nude hangout is called "Wreck Beach."

Fly at Night · 08-23-2013, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmini

Hope you did not let the shower water run on the ground.Thats gray water and God,the rangers,the tree huggers and the Haz Mat crew that has to come clean up after you will get you.I didnt think hippies did that to our envirement.

jimmini, boy, they sure got upset about the T & A (Trees and Aquifer.)

Guess I'll have to do it like this from now on.....
http://www.very-funny.net/tag/outdoor-shower-for-dogs/

VTSafari · 08-23-2013, 04:56 AM

Protagonist....you can come visit VT in winter. We generally don't run around nude that time of year...too much shrinkage going on.

Moved to VT 15 years ago and have yet to run into a random nude person. Guess I am hanging out in all the wrong places. Have yet to see the nude person striding down main street in Bristol. We have "Elvis" and the annual out house race but dang no naked people.

Protagonist · 08-23-2013, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VTSafari

Protagonist....you can come visit VT in winter. We generally don't run around nude that time of year...too much shrinkage going on.

I don't actually have a hankering to flash the great outdoors— and people of all genders thank me for that bit of discretion

— I just remembered the story and thought the AirForums readers might get a chuckle out of it, since FaN broached the subject .

JDS · 08-23-2013, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly at Night

jimmini, boy, they sure got upset about the T & A (Trees and Aquifer.)

Guess I'll have to do it like this from now on.....
http://www.very-funny.net/tag/outdoor-shower-for-dogs/

Hi FaN,

That link also has some pretty clever greeting cards as well!

John S.

Gene · 08-23-2013, 11:46 AM

About 20 years ago in Canyonlands, we "sun showered" while tent camping in the wilderness. Those sun showers don't get very hot causing a short shower and excessive shrinkage.

We've never used the outdoor shower—in fact, the hose cracked and wouldn't work anyway. Ue it before it cracks.

Going further back, there are a lot of hot springs in the wilderness in the west. Nudity at them is normal and while everyone tales a look when someone new shows up, it is not exciting and everyone is comfortable with it. We went to a lot of hot springs more than 20 years ago and if you're up for a long hike, it is a relaxing experience. Conundrum HS near Aspen is an 8 mile hike up to about 11,000'. A beautiful place, first visited by me in 1976 before it got too popular. Now the FS has lots of rules and it got crowded. Nothing quite like a FS employee naked except for his hat trying to enforce the rules. I asked him where his badge was. He didn't appreciate that.

Gene