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Old 04-01-2014, 06:29 PM   #813
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Robert, Ken & switz, I'd love to go to HK - just for the airport!
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Old 04-02-2014, 08:10 AM   #814
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If you want to see an impressive airport, then Suvarnabhumi International Airport, BangKok is the one to see. There are sculptures over 100' long, a jungle of live plants, a truly efficient inbound and outbound security system and immigration. Unfortunately, the heart of down town is over an hour away and during rush hour can take longer. There is a train that does the job in about 40 minutes.

But then the Asian airlines have service standards for even short domestic flights that put the US airlines (even on International flights) to shame on service, food and staff appearance and staff attitude.

I remember US domestic first class service in the mid 60s that was truly worthy of the elevated prices. Today's version of food service makes the worst run down diner look like a five star restaurant.
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After flying more than a million miles before my retirement last year (both domestic and international), I can attest to the demise of service on most airlines. I did fly to Amsterdam a few years ago on KLM and my only objection was that they kept waking me up to feed me more food and deserts. They also gave out ceramic bottles of liquor that were shaped like the houses that lined the canals. I do NOT miss flying, hence my addiction to Airstreams!
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Old 04-02-2014, 10:41 PM   #816
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Hi, I used to enjoy flying, but now it's unbearable. [like sardines] Unfortunately, I will be flying in about 12 hours from now.
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Old 04-02-2014, 11:48 PM   #817
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Many terminals are now first-class shopping, dining, and entertainment venues; unfortunately, it is often downhill from the security checkpoint on. As your reply indicates, flying is usually regarded as a necessary evil.

It isn't much better for those who fly for a living. My friend used to love his job; it has since been reclassified into liking his job (and that's stretching it at times). You can blame airline management for that.

Bob, I'd like to tell you, have a good flight, but that may be a bit too optimistic. Lots of weather-related delays back east right now. Hope you're not headed that way.
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Bob, I'd like to tell you, have a good flight, but that may be a bit too optimistic. Lots of weather-related delays back east right now. Hope you're not headed that way.

Hi, Thank You; I have to go back home for now. [Southern California] Hopefully quick and painless.
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Saturday morning.....prissying-up the FaN.

Can't believe we've had three wonderful years together (for the most part).


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Robert, Ken & switz, I'd love to go to HK - just for the airport!
My experiences in Eastern Asia, although wide reaching, are all 40+ years old. We landed at Kai Tak Airport.

I understand the new one is not quite as thrilling

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For those of us who never did, and those who never will now, visit this decommissioned airport, there is a good uTube video here.

Kai Tak Checkerboard approach Old HKG Airport - YouTube

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My experiences in Eastern Asia, although wide reaching, are all 40+ years old. We landed at Kai Tak Airport.

I understand the new one is not quite as thrilling

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Scarey.

This is more my style....

The Besler Steam Plane - YouTube
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The real challenge of that technology was two consumables - water for the steam and fuel to heat the water. When either one was exhausted, the flight would soon end. That was not an issue with the Stanley Steamer automobile as the dimension of "down" was not a factor.
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The real challenge of that technology was two consumables - water for the steam and fuel to heat the water. When either one was exhausted, the flight would soon end. That was not an issue with the Stanley Steamer automobile as the dimension of "down" was not a factor.

Hi, Steam engines have tons of torque and are relatively clean, but according to a Jay Leno's Garage video, it takes about 20 minutes of warm up before you can go.
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Hi, Steam engines have tons of torque and are relatively clean, but according to a Jay Leno's Garage video, it takes about 20 minutes of warm up before you can go.

Here's a plan.

Obviously the problem is the time it takes to get the water in the boiler to boiling temperature.

First, install a supplemental 125 VAC heating element in the boiler. Plug it in well before estimated departure time. If there is any question, leave it plugged in 24/7. This may sound expensive. However, here is the innovative part. You power it with a green extension cord that you have firmly imbedded into your next-door neighbor's lawn. Route it directly to his nearest outdoor outlet. Voila, you now have free instant startup. One caution, periodically top up the auto's water tank.

As a service to humanity, I do not intend to exercise my right to patent this, so feel free to use this method without royalties.


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Here's a plan.

Obviously the problem is the time it takes to get the water in the boiler to boiling temperature.

First, install a supplemental 125 VAC heating element in the boiler. Plug it in well before estimated departure time. If there is any question, leave it plugged in 24/7. This may sound expensive. However, here is the innovative part. You power it with a green extension cord that you have firmly imbedded into your next-door neighbor's lawn. Route it directly to his nearest outdoor outlet. Voila, you now have free instant startup. One caution, periodically top up the auto's water tank.

As a service to humanity, I do not intend to exercise my right to patent this, so feel free to use this method without royalties.


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Hi, parts available at most auto parts stores. Commonly known as a block warmer/heater. Or pop one of these out of your neighbor's Diesel pick-up truck.
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