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Old 01-12-2016, 06:08 AM   #1513
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From the lack of quality coming out the doors, assembly time is shorter than it was when our 2013 25FB International Serenity was built in June of 2012. The rate was about 26 units per week then. When our 2014 Classic came down the line in January 2014, they were pressing for increasing the units per week from the high 40s to 51 per week.

The new additional floor space and 200 new workers has not helped quality.
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Old 01-12-2016, 08:14 AM   #1514
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Our 2013 25FB International Serenity came off the line in June of 2012 when production was 26 units per week. We found no issues. Or perhaps the dealer actually did a PDI and corrected what was found.

Our 2014 31' Classic started the last work day of December before the Christmas break and was released from production the third week of January 2014. The blizzard turned just in time inventory control into "whenever". The production was at 45 units per week in the same facility and work crew.

I photoed the crossed duct work coming out of the rear side of the furnace just before the kitchen cabinet was placed inside the trailer on top of the ducts and furnace. We had no rear heat when we did the over night test. I told the dealer I knew what the problem was and where it was. He laugher at me until I showed him the photo. We even photoed some of the QC issues and personally told and showed the QC supervisor the issues with our trailer as well as sending a detailed e-mail listing the visible issues. They remained unfixed when the trailer arrived at the dealership.

Workers were tripping over one another inside the trailers - total chaos. The end caps were piling up as they were quicker to build than the long body skins could be cut out on the huge programable lathe table.

I arrived 15 minutes after the trailer did as I knew exactly when it would be at the dealership lot, There were many more issues discovered in the 15 minutes I spent walking through the unit. I watched the outside cleaning crew blow the pin stripes off the side of the trailer with their pressure washer.

The ones a two year old could fix, I said they could address under warranty.

I would get the rest done properly later at the third party shop that did all the modifications - A&P Vintage Trailer Works in Paradise, TX. They are also an approved warranty service center for Airstream.

Now that they have added nearly 50% more floor space and 200 "new" workers, it is no wonder the quality is dropping. The volume is increasing and an untrained work force does not even know they have not done their job properly.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:55 PM   #1515
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switz, sorry to hear about all that.

I have had relatively few problems with the FaN. I have no desire to "move up" to a bigger/newer model, especially after hearing about your tale of woe.
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:22 AM   #1516
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Memorial Flypast for a Friend

Saluting a life well lived with the Harvard (a.k.a the T-6 Texan) in the U.S.A.

Am right at there at the fence. Gets to me everytime......
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:40 AM   #1517
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Welcome to the Breakfast Show.......

Yessss!

Jets are for kids!

Nothing like the sound of a big piston engine at speed! Makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up!


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Old 01-14-2016, 01:45 AM   #1518
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rm.....absolutely!

The Harvard/T6 also has a very distinctive fwap, fwap, fwap of the propeller.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:29 AM   #1519
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Welcome to the Breakfast Show.......

Nothing so cool as a P-51 or a Spitfire doing a low pass and hard climb-out either....

Very different sounds😄😄😄



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Old 01-14-2016, 12:01 PM   #1520
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Well, this is interesting. Now the geek in me wants to investigate various assembly line times. Everything from the average car to an A380.

BTW, what is the average assembly-line time for an Airstream?
FaN - you might enjoy this 4-minute 'shiny object' even though it's not "vintage" or have any classic rock groups hopping around - but there is the distinctive sound of the engines at the end! There is a rivet machine around 1:20 or so that a few on the Forums might wish they had at Jackson Center to speed their process (rather than JC choosing to just put in fewer rivets)!

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FaN - you might enjoy this 4-minute 'shiny object' even though it's not "vintage" or have any classic rock groups hopping around - but there is the distinctive sound of the engines at the end! There is a rivet machine around 1:20 or so that a few on the Forums might wish they had at Jackson Center to speed their process (rather than JC choosing to just put in fewer rivets)!

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Hi, fantastic video of the Dreamliner; We took the factory tour. Cameras and cell phones were not allowed, and they checked too. The tour was on a high balcony about 100 yards away from the airplanes so not very much was actually seen. This was at a time when the first test flights were being done. We did see one take off and land.
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Old 01-14-2016, 04:40 PM   #1523
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Cool video

That is always a pleasure to watch something so massive be constructed in a minute or so.....very nice, thanks....
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:31 AM   #1525
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Was at the El Paso, TX airport getting fuel when I heard the loud speaker of the tower communications blare something about a P-38. We all scooted for the fence to watch and listen. The pilot asked for an unrestricted departure.

After the run up and mag check, we heard both engines wind up to a loud scream. He was about mid field and came off the runway about five feet in ground effect and retracted the landing gear. He continued to accelerate at max power and near the end of the runway stood her on her tail and went straight up several thousand feet.

It sent shivers down my spine.
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I was in the UK a few years back, visiting my sister. One day, whilst sitting in her back yard, I heard the distinctive sound of a spitfire. My sister lived in a closed air space, but for the next half hour the spit performed a series of aerobatics from 150 feet off the ground and directly over the house next door.

The Lord that lived next door was celebrating his 80th birthday and his wife had arranged for the Spitfire to put on a show for him. It was quite a show. The sound of that Merlin is something I will never forget.

BTW, he and his wife were the most unpretentious folks, just lovely people. And the entire village gathered in the road watching the "private" airshow...
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