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Old 04-18-2015, 07:11 PM   #57
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If you're nervous and feel in danger in Mexico, that in and of itself is a great reason not to go.
The whole point of traveling is to relax and have fun, right?

Besides, that leaves mas tequila for us foolhardy types.
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Old 04-18-2015, 08:09 PM   #58
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If you're nervous and feel in danger in Mexico, that in and of itself is a great reason not to go.
The whole point of traveling is to relax and have fun, right?

Besides, that leaves mas tequila for us foolhardy types.
Excellent response. Too many stupid uptight rude gringos down there as it is. It amazes me that some people even leave the supposed safety of their houses. It is a dangerous world that just begs to be challenged.
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Old 04-18-2015, 09:27 PM   #59
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You guys can laugh and try to belittle me all you want, and it's obvious you don't get the news from South Texas. There are reasons the State of Texas has National Guard troops and Extra Texas Dept. of Public Safety troopers on the border to assist the Border Patrol. Do a Google search and read about it.
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Old 04-18-2015, 11:44 PM   #60
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Travel into Mexico?

I lived within 30 miles of the border for over forty years, I have no desire to cross into Mexico at all and have not done so since I was a young teen.

It isn't so much the "bad guys" that promote in me a healthy reluctance to go into Mexico, but more that the "good guys" who can take everything you have, lock you up, and throw away the key.

I personally know one guy who was kidnapped in Mexico, and another who was locked in prison for several years.

It took several hundred thousand American dollars to get each of them out.

#JustSayin'

Travel at your own risk and buy some ransom insurance to save your family from spending every penny they have to get you out...


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Old 04-18-2015, 11:54 PM   #61
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Travel into Mexico?

Oh yea,,, if you do go into Mexico..... Make sure you don't have any firearms or ammo...

My brother in law knows a guy who spent a couple of years in a Mexican prison when the Mexican Police found three rifle cartridges in his trunk under the floor matt...

He didn't remember/know they were even there..... His family spent their life savings getting him out too.

In Mexico,,, unless someone brings you food, a few years in prison is a death sentence.....


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Old 04-19-2015, 01:36 AM   #62
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Any citations for these incidents? Just curious...


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Old 04-19-2015, 02:13 AM   #63
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My opinion.

Hi, I have told people for decades that the Twenty Mule Team couldn't drag me across that border.
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Old 04-19-2015, 05:22 AM   #64
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The people who say "more Americans are killed in America than Mexico" seem to forget the relative concentration of Americans here than there.

Group Copper Canyon tours? Think they're safe? Here's the State Dept's comment: "Crime and violence remain serious problems throughout the state of Chihuahua, particularly in the southern portion of the state and in the Sierra mountains, including Copper Canyon."


In the 1990's I was a pilot for the state of Texas and personally flew the attorney-general to Mexico City so he could meet with the atty gen of Mexico. The purpose of the meeting was to coordinate law enforcement activities against organized drug-crime.
The Texas Rangers sent a bodyguard detail with automatic weapons and a crew-served .30 Browning was set-up dedicated to guarding the airplane even tho' I parked it on the Presidential aircraft hangar ramp surrounded by Mexican military.
Three days later we returned to Austin and the meeting was termed a success. The next day the headlines announced the arrest of the head of a major drug/crime-ring.... it WAS the Mexican atty gen!

Only a few weeks later a Dallas businessman was killed in a robbery in broad daylight in downtown Mexico City by 5 hoodlums who also beat up the taxi driver. They were caught almost immediately because they were throwing the money around which they'd taken from the American.
Within a month the judge released them from jail and they were never tried because the judge determined that the money they stole was not kept for their own use...but was thoroughly spent and given away within the barrio almost immediately... as the five were considered "Robin Hood" heroic types.

I declined to ever fly again into Mexico on official state business, never accept flights destined there, and have ceased personal trips down there forever.

I can't wait to go to Cuba.
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The OP, jornvango, has another thread in which he talks about his trip in 2014 from Mexico to Panama and back. In the first post of that thread he has a link to his blog, Roadtrippin' The Americas, that details his trip. Below is a link to that thread.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...-a-115103.html

His blog about their trip is a very interesting read.

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Thanks Overlander & Sea.

We had lived in Texas for over 10 years before we drove into Mexico and Central America. Of course we heard the bad news. Heck, even the Dodge mechanic (from Mexican descent) in San Antonio was telling us not to go.
This is why, when you do go and you meet other campers in Mexico and Central America, only 5% are Americans and 95% are from countries where they don't get brainwashed by the media about how unsafe Mexico is.

Yes, there's always a risk and you don't have to go looking for trouble. Use common sense wherever you travel. Attitudes like some I read here are why many beautiful, cheap campgrounds in Mexico's colonial cities or along its beautiful coast line are sitting mostly empty. And that's indeed more space for those of us who make the journey. I've always wondered why so many snowbirds drive thousands of miles south each winter only to stop north of the border. In my opinion, south Texas or other parts where many snowbirds end up doesn't even begin to compare to what Mexico has to offer. Mexico is cheaper, more culturally interesting (they have century old architecture down there, which is few and far between up in the States), a better climate (we love the Altiplano), interesting food ...

Now that we returned from our trip, we moved from Texas and are now living in Arizona. Can't wait to go down into Mexico on weekend trips.
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Getting away without any incident does not equate with safety. Like riding a motorcycle without a helmet, It's safe enough until it isn't. Having gotten away X number of times does not improve the odds of the next time. Every time you roll the dice the odds are the same. sooner or later it comes up snake eyes.
I'm hoping that nobody, to include certainly yourself, finds this offensive - but I've walked from my house to the car thousands of times without being struck by a meteorite, too.
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I'm hoping that nobody, to include certainly yourself, finds this offensive - but I've walked from my house to the car thousands of times without being struck by a meteorite, too.
Yes, and by the same train of thought, I've never been hit by a tornado either, fortunately, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't respect the potential danger of huge thunder storms.
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Old 04-20-2015, 06:53 PM   #69
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If you want to know what it's really like to RV in Mexico, as a family, take a look at bumfuzzle.com.

The requirements for a happy experience appear to be common sense, friendliness and a basic command of the language.
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:36 PM   #70
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America is a big nation with plenty to see..... It might not be as cheap as most places in Mexico, but America is safer for a gringo with good sense...

It might be worth mentioning that should a person need medical care in Mexico, emergency or not,,,, have cash.... There is no such thing as emergency care before payment.


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