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Old 09-12-2013, 01:51 PM   #29
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Quote: "Friction sway control manufacturers, all recommend that their friction sway control be loosen or taken off when towing in the rain. Water is a lubricant to the friction pads, which renders them useless, the same as the shoe brakes on tow vehicles do when getting wet."

This seems contradictory. If water lubricates the friction pads and renders them useless, then why bother to loosen them in the rain?

Also, cars (and trailers) should not be driven in the rain because the brakes get wet?

Wow.
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Driving in the rain does not get the brakes shoes wet.

" BUT, driving through puddles that are several inches deep, does get them wet"

Perhaps I should defined the depth of the water, so there would be no misunderstanding.

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Old 09-12-2013, 01:59 PM   #30
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Quote: "Friction sway control manufacturers, all recommend that their friction sway control be loosen or taken off when towing in the rain. Water is a lubricant to the friction pads, which renders them useless, the same as the shoe brakes on tow vehicles do when getting wet."

This seems contradictory. If water lubricates the friction pads and renders them useless, then why bother to loosen them in the rain?

Wow.
That is what I was trying to ferret out/understand.
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Old 09-12-2013, 02:02 PM   #31
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The dual cam hitch and the friction sway devices on other hitches both add a force that pushs the TV straight instead of turning and pushes the trailer sideways when the rig is turning. I think this could be a problem on ice or snow, but probably not in the rain.
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:17 PM   #32
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I like our cam anti-sway. No worries about what happens in the rain, snow, or ice.

I slow down enough to be comfortable, but certainly not enough to require the use of flashers.

I suppose my position is this:

Being comfortable towing a trailer comes with experience.

If one has been exposed to towing lots of trailers in varying conditions, one is more comfortable doing so.

If one purchases a trailer, loads all their possessions, and is learning as they go, one will no doubt be apprehensive in less than ideal conditions. For a while.

Trailers are not spooky horses, looking for a way to blow up and unload the rider at anytime.

We brag about how well behaved Airstreams are compared to SOBs, so enjoy the day, slow down a little to allow yourself a little extra time to stop when in traffic and drive until cocktail hour.

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My husband and I are comfortable towing. We have towed stock trailers, equipment trailers, utility trailers, gravity wagons, hay wagons and travel trailers. Airstreams tow nicer than any of them. However, twice we have used our flashers. When it is raining so hard you can't see and you can't pull off because there is nowhere to go and the vehicle in front of you is going slow, the flashers might help someone see you are there.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:29 AM   #33
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Driving with your flashers on in Florida is illegal, and should/could be in other sates as well. Living in Florida for many years, these people caused many accidents when it rained. With their flashers on they change lanes frequently, so turn signals don't work, and you do not know when they are braking or slowing.

Flashers should be used for an emergency when pulled over, or to warn others of slowing conditions due to accident or towing slowly up a grade. Your headlights and tail lights work well to let folks know you are there.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:27 PM   #34
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Dang...I felt like I was so close to understanding why the friction bar should be loosened in the rain.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:55 PM   #35
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If you drive with bald bias ply tires on your trailer with them inflated to 90 psi I might loosen the sway bar but then I would not drive with tires like that.

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Old 09-13-2013, 01:00 PM   #36
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Friction sway control manufacturers, all recommend that their friction sway control be loosen or taken off when towing in the rain.

Water is a lubricant to the friction pads, which renders them useless, the same as the shoe brakes on tow vehicles do when getting wet.

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So... Is there a detrimental effect? I agree that wet friction pads are not as effective, but I am missing how it would be harmful to leave them tightened or connected.
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It can cause loss of control, unless loosened.

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Hi, if water renders them useless, then there is no need to loosen anything. Therefore, no loss of control.
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:02 PM   #37
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Good point. I will make sure that I turn my headlights on in the rain.

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Hi, turning your lights on in the rain is a fairly new California law.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:14 PM   #38
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What's the difference?

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Friction sway control manufacturers, all recommend that their friction sway control be loosen or taken off when towing in the rain.

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There is no need to loosen anything when using a Reese "dual cam" sway control.

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What is the difference while driving in rain or on ice?

A friction type (either the friction bar or Anderson type) anti-sway device resists motion in any direction, whether going straight or when the trailer pivots on the ball in a curve. (a problem both going straight or in a curve if the friction on the device overcomes traction)

A Reese dual cam type anti-sway device resist pivoting on the ball in a curve using both friction and tension, trying to push the trailer straight behind the tow vehicle. (a problem in a curve only if the friction and tension on the device overcomes traction)

Using any of these anti-type sway devices when trailer tire to road surface traction is overcome as a result of wetness or ice, the result is the same, sliding tires.

This point of loss of traction can be calculated, but that math is beyond me. I know it varies with device adjustment, road surface texture, tire condition, speed, etc.

The only anti-sway devices that I am aware of that do not have this issue are the HA and the PP. (I'm still using a friction bar, so I just slow down and loosen the bar)
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:52 PM   #39
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I don't think I could get a friction sway bar tight enough to overcome the tractional forces of a trailer going around a curve with a 15 foot lever arm. On ice or snow maybe or a full on hydroplane then maybe. I am very aware of standing water on the road as compared to just a wet road. You never try to change directions when on ice or while hydroplaning or use the brakes (accept trailer brakes).

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Old 09-13-2013, 03:16 PM   #40
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well all i can say is, it's a good thing airstreams don't leak! ;-)

(somebody had to say it)
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:33 PM   #41
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well all i can say is, it's a good thing airstreams don't leak! ;-)

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There's always one in the crowd ;-)
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There's always one in the crowd ;-)
I guess I am the one. Our '97 Safari has never had a leak UNTIL, we spent several nights in the Olympic Rain Forest near Lake Quinalt, WA (we enjoyed a nice lunch in a beautiful lodge right on the lake). It rained extremely hard all 3 nights with some light rain each day, and I found a small leak in the upper corner of one of the rear bed room windows. Not sure I would have found it otherwise, so the trip was enjoyable and I know where to seal the window.

As far as towing, no problem, rain or shine. Just use common sense and employ safe driving practices.
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