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Old 05-04-2014, 06:15 PM   #29
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I'm not sure that "raiding" the highway trust fund is the proper term. It's not as if projects other than direct road construction and maintenance involve, e.g., spending the money instead on foreign aid or meals for seniors or somesuch. On the other hand, money from the fund is sometimes (certainly not always) spent on projects that might properly be delayed or funded by other means. Still, the temptation of Congresspeople of all political stripes -- and hardly restricted to this Congress, for it's been this way for quite a few decades -- to earmark money from the general highway fund for constituents' highway-related projects is hard to resist, plainly.

Senators McCain and Coburn wrote a paper on this back in 2009, and many of the points are directly applicable today. I'm no great fan of either Senator, though I think they're pretty much on the mark in this case. (This was obviously before President Obama came along with the idea of allowing states to fund highways via user fees.)

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I don't think that this is a partisan matter at all. It has nothing to do with being a liberal or being a conservative; alas, it does have to do with being a caring human in Congress, and the negative consequences of being so.


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Simply stated, the gas tax SHOULD pay for roads maintenance and construction, but the fact is that government is an expensive and inefficient instrument.

Frankly, I doubt a majority of the fuel tax collected goes toward road construction and maintenance, even though it was sold to the public under this assurance.
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A "road tax" certainly insinuates that the proceeds of such taxes go to roads, but this is not the case, instead once all of the money is spent on other things, the politicians come back at us for more money for roads and infrastructure, this is not honest.
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California and a couple of other legislatures, don't remember right now which states, just passed a $50 tax to be added to Hybrids and $100 on pure electrics to be added to their yearly license fee because they are not paying enough gas tax. Ya think that will go to fix the roads?

They want folks to conserve, but when they do, they tax them for doing it.
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You gotta love politicians and their "solutions".

By the time they get done with us there won't be anything left.
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Yes, in this way, the government gets the public to pay twice for the road, once with gas tax and a second time with tolls.
Plus the increased cost to consume any product shipped on those roads. It's certainly a slush fund. Oh, and our fine politicians shrewdly renegotiate a 1/6 to 1/7 royalty for our domestically pumped fuels every time they get a chance...

I've been calling the money I spend on gas my 'get to work tax' for years.
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Plus the increased cost to consume any product shipped on those roads. It's certainly a slush fund. Oh, and our fine politicians shrewdly renegotiate a 1/6 to 1/7 royalty for our domestically pumped fuels every time they get a chance...

I've been calling the money I spend on gas my 'get to work tax' for years.
Now it's our "Pay to play" tax.

It's getting crazier all the time.
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I feel lime a broken record, the gas tax haven't changed since 1993, over 20 years ago. Imagine living off your income then today and maintaining everything the same. Not possible. To compare, the average driving American pays about 108 in federal gas tax pet year. The same person pays 600 per year for Internet or more than that for Starbucks Coffee.

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I paid $985.32 in gas tax last year. I paid $420 for internet and bought no Starbucks coffee.

None of this has anything to do with the fact that gas tax is being spent on things for which it was not intended at it's inception.
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