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Old 01-07-2008, 08:51 AM   #1
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The price of Fuel

This is my first post, so hopefully I do this right.
I was wondering what we are to do, when fuel rises above 100 dollars a barrel. Most of us plan on using our cherished Airstreams to play with during retirement. Will this make retirement a thing of the past? We've all planned (hopefully) to sew up our pensions, trust funds, IRA's or what have you, for that day when we no longer have to rise to the attention of the alarm clock. I now wonder if it will even be practical to think that we can have and enjoy the Airstream we have grown to love as our family member. Don't know how many miles a year can be logged on with gas headed towards $9.00 a gallon in our life times.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:20 AM   #2
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This is my first post, so hopefully I do this right.
I was wondering what we are to do, when fuel rises above 100 dollars a barrel. Most of us plan on using our cherished Airstreams to play with during retirement. Will this make retirement a thing of the past? We've all planned (hopefully) to sew up our pensions, trust funds, IRA's or what have you, for that day when we no longer have to rise to the attention of the alarm clock. I now wonder if it will even be practical to think that we can have and enjoy the Airstream we have grown to love as our family member. Don't know how many miles a year can be logged on with gas headed towards $9.00 a gallon in our life times.
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What will we do? Pay more! Seriously, this question gets asked every time fuel prices go up. IMO rising fuel costs and the general lowering of the standard of living we've all been used to in North America due to the outflow of capital to global markets will result in a reduction in the length of trips, smaller trailers and expecially more fuel efficient tow vehicles. But the continued popularity of RV'ing is ensured due to the retiring mass of baby boomers with paid off mortgages with plenty of time on their hands.

JMHO.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:52 AM   #3
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Welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.

You have raised some very valid points regarding this fuel price thing. We have been retired for 5 years now. We are very fortunate as we are still (barely) on the sunny side of 60. For the last two years we have been really enjoying our Airstream adventures and are spending at least 25% of our time in Lucy on the road.

The rising fuel price has been concerning us. We don't like the situation, but have decided that we will continue on as before. We realize that we are very fortunate to be able to do this.

We are concerned about the state of our nation's economy if gas continues rise significantly. This could signal the eventual end of our middle class society which will render us just another third world country. What a shame.

We are hopeful that energy technology will be able to take the pressure off of fossil fuels. I hope to live to see the day when oil production provides only a small percentage of our energy needs, and the Middle East becomes a place where goat herding and camel husbandry are, once agian, the primary business pursuits.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:21 AM   #4
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The price seen at the pump is the least of the fuel worries. It's the rise in prices throughout the economy as a result that will hit us hardest.
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The price seen at the pump is the least of the fuel worries. It's the rise in prices throughout the economy as a result that will hit us hardest.
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I agree. Say how's that 08 F250 you have there doing?
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:33 AM   #6
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Travelling with a vintage Airstream is still much more affordable than staying in decent hotels and eating in restaurants. I'd agree that more efficient tow vehicles, e.g. smaller diesels, will help, but the main solution will be to drive less by seeking out interesting destinations closer to home, and saving up for the major long distance trips to major attractions.
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Travelling with a vintage Airstream is still much more affordable than staying in decent hotels and eating in restaurants. I'd agree that more efficient tow vehicles, e.g. smaller diesels, will help, but the main solution will be to drive less by seeking out interesting destinations closer to home, and saving up for the major long distance trips to major attractions.
Agree Albert.. Ten years ago we were doing a major trip every year. East coast, west coast, down south etc. Now it is mostly shorter trips with a longer one at 2 or 3 year intervals.
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As a young retiree my plans have already changed. We now take shorter trips instead of longer as we had hoped to do. It's not that I can't afford $3.59 diesel fuel it's just that I refuse to do it . If a small % of the American Public would do the same I believe the price will drop. I'm just glad I'm not a camp ground owner.
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Old 01-07-2008, 01:57 PM   #9
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Having just retired on the 3rd the question is very important to the wife and I. We were traveling back from the 2008 Can Opener rally and discussed it somewhat. We felt shorter trips with longer stays at near by campgrounds. Smaller trailers and more efficient TV. TV should last longer due to shorter trips. I also feel everyone else has the same problem no matter what they do for fun, the impact will reach those who ski, fly, power boaters, all forms of recreation. Europe has had high gas prices for decades and they still RV, the industry will have to adjust. It did makes us feel good that we own a sailboat of course the cost of sails will rise.
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As a young retiree my plans have already changed. We now take shorter trips instead of longer as we had hoped to do. It's not that I can't afford $3.59 diesel fuel it's just that I refuse to do it . If a small % of the American Public would do the same I believe the price will drop. I'm just glad I'm not a camp ground owner.
It would drop but not by much. Oil is a world commodity and unfortunately the US imports about 60% of what we consume in terms of oil...

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A lot of things can kick retirement plans in the keester besides rising fuel prices. My bride and I WERE on track to retire in 2010 until 9/11. The airlines took a beating and took it out on the employees and poof there went the early retirement plans. So back to the drawing board and see what we could come up with.

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For us it won't really matter. We'll still go where and when we want. It will impact other things, like the number of times we eat out when we are at home. We'll still eat at restaurants while traveling and in the trailer when camped. I'll want to update the technology in the '57 wagon when it makes sense.

I suspect we'll see gas continue to climb in the next 10 years so get out on the road now and enjoy the world.

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Dot to dot

I retired in '93, my wife in '01. We are into Airstream Rallys, Street Rod events and we fly sport kites at Kite Festivals.

We are already picking and choosing our events so that, much of the time, we can play dot to dot from one event to another, rather than coming home between. With the price of ruel over $3.00, we are finding that it is much cheaper to stay over at a place, and then go on to the next event, and lots more fun.

That means more nights in our Airstream, not less. More revenue for RV parks and campgrounds, less spent on fuel and truck maintenance.

Look at the bright side.
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We won't cancel trips because of fuel prices. Mainly, it's a matter of belt-tightening in areas where we splurge: Going out to eat rather than cooking, buying gifts, that sort of thing.

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