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Old 03-06-2012, 07:21 PM   #85
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Of course...I still need to place that order, get'em delivered and figure out what month we'll be there!
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was there ever any doubt?
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Of course...I still need to place that order, get'em delivered and figure out what month we'll be there!
jeez...no pressure on me
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The Best Laid Plans....

Shawn has just found out something that is going to cause us to change our plans drastically. Instead of a meandering trip through the midwest to get to the BASH and the east coast, we are now going to have to truck pretty fast up to Massachusetts. So much for letting the curriculum guide our Journey ... but thanks to you guys I have an entire spreadsheet full of places to visit!
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We have been back on the road for a few weeks. So far we have visited Graceland and The Andrew Johnson Homestead.
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Still in Tennessee?

Glad your on the road, hope all goes well.

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We have been back on the road for a few weeks. So far we have visited Graceland and The Andrew Johnson Homestead.
Glad you are out and about.

We really enjoyed Graceland. Very well done, comprehensive, didn't seem to be trying to gouge one out of every possible nickel and dime.

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Still in Tennessee?

Glad your on the road, hope all goes well.

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Still in Tennessee at least till the weekend. Then we are headed up Baltimore way
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Glad you are out and about.

We really enjoyed Graceland. Very well done, comprehensive, didn't seem to be trying to gouge one out of every possible nickel and dime.

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Graceland was interesting but the real attraction, at least for the kids, was the planes and cars!
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Graceland was interesting but the real attraction, at least for the kids, was the planes and cars!
Oh, yes, those were Doug's favorite parts!


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I missed this thread and now see you are on the road.

Buffalo—lots of Victorian architecture. Mansions on Delaware Ave. are impressive and one or more probably have tours: they did years ago. City Hall has some great Art Deco features and the top floor gives a great view of the area. You can also see how a once great industrial city and port dies.

Bethlehem, Pa. Site of an 18th century Moravian settlement, I believe they have restored it. The site of the Bethlehem Steel Co. plant (another victim of the post-industrial era) is being redeveloped.

Easton, Pa.—classic old town with a central square at the confluence of the Delaware and Lehigh Rivers. The old canals may still be visible. If you take US 611 south, you follow the Delaware River, the old canal, and many historic sites.

Antietam battlefield in Md.—I believe this was the bloodiest battle of the Civil War and teaches about the ugliness of war. Nearby is Harper's Ferry—historic park, site of John Brown's effort to start a slave uprising and a town that changed hands numerous times during the war.

Coal country in NE Pa.—towns like Hazleton and Mahoney City were surrounded by slag heaps from irresponsible mining and I doubt it has changed. Teaches about environmental disasters. Pa. is a beautiful state, but some parts were ravaged.

US 80 across Alabama and Miss. is sometimes called the Civil Rights Highway—Selma, Montgomery are on that highway.

Charleston has been mentioned. Outside town are plantations to view. Drayton Hall has been preserved without being restored with period furniture. You can see how it was more authentically.

Savannah is another city from the past with numerous squares and many restored mansions.

Roanoke Is. has what I recall are replicas of the original British colony in what is now the US. Kitty Hawk is nearby—site of first airplane flight.

Asheville, NC, also has a number of Art Deco buildings including city hall and downtown.

Boston's Faneuil Hall is where Sam Adams and other radicals held town meetings to rally the citizens. Nearby are Paul Revere's house, Old North Church, Boston Commons and many other sites.

We've visited some of the president's homes that had significance to us—Mount Vernon seems small by today's standards and so does Monticello. The Hermitage (Jackson) near Nashville still has the original wallpaper and is well preserved. The Lincoln house and historic district in Springfield has been mentioned. There is also a building with his law office nearby.

We found Mammoth Cave interesting and took two tours. Reservations are a good idea. The most basic tour goes past the saltpeter mine—used for gunpowder during the Revolution I think.

Cumberland Gap—where the late 18th century pioneers crossed to the west and later became the gap where the first federal highway went—The National Road, much later US 40 more or less. 200+ years ago the same fights went on about federal vs. state power and whether the feds should build a road to the west.

Enough for now. I have tried to point out some places and attractions more off the beaten path or not mentioned.

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I missed this thread and now see you are on the road.

Buffalo—lots of Victorian architecture. Mansions on Delaware Ave. are impressive and one or more probably have tours: they did years ago. City Hall has some great Art Deco features and the top floor gives a great view of the area. You can also see how a once great industrial city and port dies.

Bethlehem, Pa. Site of an 18th century Moravian settlement, I believe they have restored it. The site of the Bethlehem Steel Co. plant (another victim of the post-industrial era) is being redeveloped.

Easton, Pa.—classic old town with a central square at the confluence of the Delaware and Lehigh Rivers. The old canals may still be visible. If you take US 611 south, you follow the Delaware River, the old canal, and many historic sites.

Antietam battlefield in Md.—I believe this was the bloodiest battle of the Civil War and teaches about the ugliness of war. Nearby is Harper's Ferry—historic park, site of John Brown's effort to start a slave uprising and a town that changed hands numerous times during the war.

Coal country in NE Pa.—towns like Hazleton and Mahoney City were surrounded by slag heaps from irresponsible mining and I doubt it has changed. Teaches about environmental disasters. Pa. is a beautiful state, but some parts were ravaged.

US 80 across Alabama and Miss. is sometimes called the Civil Rights Highway—Selma, Montgomery are on that highway.

Charleston has been mentioned. Outside town are plantations to view. Drayton Hall has been preserved without being restored with period furniture. You can see how it was more authentically.

Savannah is another city from the past with numerous squares and many restored mansions.

Roanoke Is. has what I recall are replicas of the original British colony in what is now the US. Kitty Hawk is nearby—site of first airplane flight.

Asheville, NC, also has a number of Art Deco buildings including city hall and downtown.

Boston's Faneuil Hall is where Sam Adams and other radicals held town meetings to rally the citizens. Nearby are Paul Revere's house, Old North Church, Boston Commons and many other sites.

We've visited some of the president's homes that had significance to us—Mount Vernon seems small by today's standards and so does Monticello. The Hermitage (Jackson) near Nashville still has the original wallpaper and is well preserved. The Lincoln house and historic district in Springfield has been mentioned. There is also a building with his law office nearby.

We found Mammoth Cave interesting and took two tours. Reservations are a good idea. The most basic tour goes past the saltpeter mine—used for gunpowder during the Revolution I think.

Cumberland Gap—where the late 18th century pioneers crossed to the west and later became the gap where the first federal highway went—The National Road, much later US 40 more or less. 200+ years ago the same fights went on about federal vs. state power and whether the feds should build a road to the west.

Enough for now. I have tried to point out some places and attractions more off the beaten path or not mentioned.

Gene
I will add these suggestions to the spreadsheet I created. Thanks!!
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"Buffalo—lots of Victorian architecture. Mansions on Delaware Ave. are impressive and one or more probably have tours: they did years ago. City Hall has some great Art Deco features and the top floor gives a great view of the area. You can also see how a once great industrial city and port dies."

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Buffalo also has Allentown which is now probably very cool. Lots of Victoriana and some house date to the very early 1800's. There's one on Irving Pl. that was built not long after Buffalo was settled in 1803. It is close to Allen St. on the south side—I think it is 3 stores, brick and very rectangular. Probably was surrounded by farmland then. This is one mile from downtown. A lot of houses were built in the 1880's on the other end of the block. I think 64 Irving was built in 1886—I once owned it. North St. (the other end of Irving) had a very expensive houses before 1900, but by the 1970's, a lot were gone and replaced by apartment houses. Allentown went downhill eventually, but by the 1960's was being gentrified.

Ask Bob Cross for a tour—he lived close to Allentown years ago.

The county courthouse downtown is classic Victorian to the max and is quite ugly. Nearby is the Prudential bldg, a Louis Sullivan design: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudent...anty)_Building. Not so far to the Ellicott Square Bldg on Main St.: Ellicott Square Building - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Once the largest office building in the world, the interior courtyard is pretty cool. There were two major railroad stations. The one close to downtown was in shambles by the 1970's, but the marble interior was still spectacular (it was easy to get through the fences around it). The other station was still operating, but rail service by then was spotty. Delaware Park was designed by Frederick Law Omstead (Central Park in NYC) and was kind of shabby by the '70's, but still showed the designer's famed park designs. Pretty Boy Floyd also lived in Buffalo for a while in the 1920's in an apartment building with features more advanced than seen most places. By the '70's it was a wreck.

Buffalo was a major port from the time the Erie Canal was finished until the St. Lawrence Seaway was built. The railroads supplanted the canal for commerce. Grains were shipped from the midwest and milled in Buffalo and then sent by rail to east coast. Steel and auto plants in neighboring cities made this an industrial center. The Seaway enabled ships to keep going to the coast or Europe and the grain mills all closed. Buffalo, despite the famous weather, was one of America's most important cities and when the Seaway opened had around 650,000 people in the 1950's. By the '70's, it was down to 350,000 and now around 250,000. The Seaway was a bad idea for Buffalo. The destruction of cities around the Great Lakes started in Buffalo and the spread. What a waste! Living in a dying city is not easy and the winters of '76-'77 and '77-'78 were enough for me.

Anyone who goes to Buffalo to see the sights will be mostly alone. There is still a lot of significant architecture.

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