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Old 04-20-2013, 10:19 PM   #1
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Texas to Tallahassee

Starting on a 2,000 mile + trip to Tallahassee and back to Pleasanton, TX, south of San Antonio, on Monday. Be gone for 2 weeks at least. Then off to Idaho, another 2,000 miles one way. First big trips on my new 16" LT Michelins, so looking forward to this trip with not as many tire worries. Washed the Classic today, will fill our gear and fridge tomorrow. Staying at Westlake RV Park in Houston the first 2 nights and then on to Pensacola, etc. My only problem is the New Orleans area on I-10, which is a real mess no matter when you go through. I sure wish there was a decent route around NO. Oh well, grit your teeth and keep going.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:01 PM   #2
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Why wouldn't you take I-12 in Baton Rouge and go through Hammond straight to FL?
That way your north of the lake and miss New Orleans all together.
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Old 04-21-2013, 02:30 AM   #3
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Absolutely,,, I12 is the way to go,,, done it boocoo times. One place to be aware of is the first rest stop on I10 (welcome area) in LA coming in from TX. From dusk to dawn it is swarmed with Saber Tooth Mosquitoes. They land on you so thick that you can kill 8 to 10 with a single slap. Hatefull buggers!!!!
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:11 AM   #4
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Pappy19,

I agree take I-12' it's a straight shot around the "Big Easy".

Watch out for I-10 WB from the Lake Charles bridge into the city, it's a terrible road. Drive with caution. Also, West of Lafayette to the Atchafalaya Basin bridge.

Have a good trip!
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:45 AM   #5
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Unless you want to visit N.O., I-12 is the way to go.
We like to stay in Lafayette for few days and eat, drink and listen to Zydeco in the Cajun towns.
When we get bored slogging along on the interstate, we take U.S. 90 for a few miles. It is slow scenic and interesting particularly through the Florida Panhandle.
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Unless you specifically want to visit New Orleans, taking I-10 from Baton Rouge to Slidell will not only add two hours to your trip, it will add about fifty miles to your route. Virtually all through traffic uses the I-12 New Orleans by-pass. Take a look at a map and you will see what I am talking about.

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And make a stop at DON's Specialty Meats in Scott, LA. X97. I pull off there in an 18-wheeler to get a pound of fresh boudin. Huge selection of frozen food. I take an ice chest just for this reason. Use a map service satellite photo to understand the turnaround next to the building, and how to use the frontage roads and Interstate Exit & Entrance Roads (as they are not the same thing).

Most of IH-10 through LA is pretty good, but some old sections (expect porpoising) still exist in the cities through to Baton Rouge. The bridge across the MS River is where the traffic starts to back up. The later in the day, the worse it is.

IH-10 through Beaumont, TX can back up so badly as to lose more than an hour in stopn' go. We run TX-73 around to Orange, TX to bypass that particular mess if past noon.

Frankly, I'd rather run US-84 most of the way. 290 & 190 from P-ton and out of Texas and then connecting routes which parallel IH-10 but to the north. The Interstates are fine for 18-wheelers, but nothing would induce me to run IH-10 east of San Antonio with my own rig had I the choice. Everyone is in a hurry and none know how to drive. Its a purely commercial road with no redeeming features (except the wonderful food in and around Lafayette, LA).

Aim your rig towards Livingston, TX and proceed from there (if you change your Houston stop).

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:19 AM   #8
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Wow, I really appreciate all of the advice from you all. I do have to make a stop in Houston and we are staying at the Westlake RV Resort on Clay Road. We have stayed there before and really like that park. I am looking at Hwy 90 to Orange and will try that route as the I-10 section is horrible. I don't know why I didn't take the I-12 by-pass to BR the last time I went through NO, but I think it was on a Sunday and thought it wouldn't be too bad, but it was. We leave out later this morning to Houston so I will have a couple of days to fine tune my route before continuing on to Tally. Thanks a million for all of the assistance.

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Old 04-22-2013, 08:16 PM   #9
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We made it to Westlake RV Resort in Houston, about 230 miles from our start in Pleasanton, TX. The trip was uneventful, except my mileage went up 1 mpg, I am assuming from my new bearings and new 16" Michelin LT tires on the AS. For a V-10, 1 mpg increase is alot, so I am getting almost 10 mpg towing my AS at 70 mph. I am impressed. I am noting all fillups on this trip like I did last year with my original 15" ST type tires. Running around Houston tomorrow, then on to Tally.
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:23 PM   #10
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Hwy 90 to Orange and will try that route as the I-10 section is horrible.

No, actually IH-10 from Houston to the state line is outstanding. Running US-90 is no advantage from either traffic or scenery. In fact, I would avoid it.

(The rest of this is about fuel economy records and analysis)

MPG increases are all about percentage improvements to the baseline [records with depth].

From 9 to 10-mpg is an improvement of 10%. In the world of FE [fuel economy] a 10% improvement is huge. At $3.50/gl gasoline, as example, ones fuel consumption moves from 38 to 35-cpm. Absolute numbers are, by themselves, fairly meaningless when we speak of highs or lows. The average is all.

For depth in FE records I would also recommend engine hours as adjunctive to travel speed. Average Mph and Average Mpg bear a relation past the simple speed reductions one notes. Engine idle-time bears heavily for purposes of understanding towing fuel consumption.

On travel speed: the closer are Average MPH and chosen travel speed, the better the numbers when speeds not any higher than 60-mph are chosen. Aerodynamic resistance is unreal past this point. Rolling resistance is the main factor in FE up to 50-mph.

A simple test for those wanting to travel faster than 60 also works well: at a speed under the flow of traffic, note how many times one must change lanes to get around a slowmover. The fewer, the better, as lane-changing is contraindicated for FE (this and other info noted is based on studies by the big truck industry).

Engine Hours: For TT towing I mark the point I first turn the key as I back to the TT, and mark the point at which I have unhitched (or not, as the case may be).

Obviously, one can "cheat" best on FE numbers by not filling up until one has, at a steady-state speed travelled 1.5-hrs (the point at which tire temps stabilize), AND again before one gets off the road for good that day (ideally before any major metro area). IOW, the longest stretch from initial fill to second fill at the same speed. (This is your bragging number; from X778 IH-10 Houston to X7 Vinton, LA -- though short -- would fit this profile as your specfic consumption is fairly high [gallons consumed] LOVES Travel Plaza at both these, IIRC).

I also note particulars of that day in climate, terrain and anything notable about the run. Our outstanding weather this week in Texas is no doubt of help as A/C use is minimized.

If you do not already have a SCANGAUGE, or, my choice, ULTRAGAUGE I believe that you would much enjoy the real-time feedback through the OBD port, as well as being able to analyze numbers available.

While FE is fun as an indicator of lowest HP demand (drivetrain & vehicle longevity) establishing a solid base for cents-per-mile in towing and solo miles (as in my sig) allows for planning exactitude. And, done well, gives me some elbow room for other things. Call it, permission, or, reward. A few years back I put this into context (annual fuel budget) and, through discipline and skill acquisition, was able to save enough fuel while solo (still doing the same things) to underwrite 5,000-miles of vacation travel. Same annual fuel budget, remember.

Have fun!!

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Old 04-23-2013, 09:02 AM   #11
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I guess my mileage is sketchy with just one fill-up situation and today we will be running solo around Houston all day so I will expect my normal 11 mpg. I also recently changed oil/filter and used my own Chevron dino 5-30 instead of the quick-lube Valvoline 5-20, so I guess I'd have to consider that in the equation as well. My towing speed was mostly 70 mph on cruise but also had a few slow downs and passes, per normal. I am also running Mike's 5 Star STC tuner set on 89octane/performance/tow; and on this V-10, it rocks for power, so the mileage increase is super.
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Made it to Tally, no problems except the AS batteries are shot, replacing them today. Mileage seems to be all over the place; bad head winds, rain, traffic, etc. BUT, overall it still went up on the first 1,000 miles from my normal 8.22 to 8.46. The 8.22 was my average for a 7,000 mile journey 2 years ago. My TV has the same Michelin tires as that trip but this is the first big trip for the AS with the new LT Michelins. Almost no sway at all when changing lanes, feels much more stable. Will be here in Tally until next Tuesday, then back to Texas.
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I shoot for the same travel speed (cruise control set number) unless winds or hills are a problem. That's about the best one can do, IMO, for consistency (at least, until the next time I run across that state or region). Glad all is okay. Did you run IH-10 the whole way?
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No, I did the I-12 across Baton Rouge to by-pass New Orleans. Best thing I ever did. We stayed at the Cajun RV Park in Biloxi, MS, a very nice park, and ate at McElroys (one of THE best breakfasts ever) on Hwy 90 and then back to I-10 to Tally.
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