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08-03-2015, 11:21 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
Montgomery
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 262
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Terra Incognita
What if you were entering Terra Incognita, say along the North Shore of Lake Superior where No kind of Verizon cellular service reaches you from the US and the only signal from nearby Canada informs you that the costs will be prohibitive once you get in range. Say, for the first time in your traveling life, you have back-to-back reservations at Ontario's finest Provincial Parks for the next 18 days. The weather is clear, traffic is light, your documents are in order and you are carrying no illegal food stuffs which might endanger the lives and agriculture of our friendly neighbors to the North.
Why look! A national Monument AND a gas station with attractive prices, just before the border. How Fortuitous, he exclaimed. AND, it is large and commodious, easy to manuever in and spotlessly clean...part of the Grand Portage Casino complex...
What, you ask, Could go wrong?
Well, your right front trailer axel hub could crack, your wheel going a tad asymmetrical, loud screeching of complaning metal and cries of horror from bystanders. That might happen just as you pull away from the pumps...
We stopped, blocking horrified convenience store customers in their parking places, ASSESSED, and pulled away to the parking apron to yet more shrieking from metal and spectators.
We took advice from all assembled. Letting the air out of the tire and pulling up on levelers helped free the tire with no further damage, but the carnage was impressive. Clearly, this JUST happened. The grease wasn't burned or even hot. The guts of the brake assembly were a tangled mess, but the lugs were tight. The fracture to the bearing cup was new and clean. No sign of careless maintenance. The tire temperature sensor had not even peeped. We were lucky this happened as it did: Happening WHERE it did, Not so lucky.
Well, one bit of Luck. Part of the Casino complex is a pleasant campground and site #1 was the easiest to access and empty. This I learned from Richard, who as I was told, would know what to do if anybody did.
It was Sunday. It was Festival day in Grand Marias, forty plus miles back and, if we left right away, we could arrive during the Parade which would assure that no one would be at their place. Halfway back we MIGHT get celular service to try our Roadside Assistance folks at Good Sams, but we thought it would be prudent to depend on ourselves to find someone capable of fixing this. Then, if necessary, risk the towing.
Stay tuned for further developments.
Your comments and suggestions are appreciated though I might not have Another run to the Grand Marias Emergency Room (nothing serious) and I won't have much coverage in Terra Incognita....
Al
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TAC AL-26 WBCCI 2626
Montgomery, Alabama
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08-03-2015, 01:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,077
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Booooo, Al & Patty!
At least you're in a beautiful part of the country.
Maggie
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08-03-2015, 02:16 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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You can sign up for a Canada plan from Verizon for cellphones. It is not all that expensive. They have one for their JetPack hot spot too, but it is expensive and all you get is 250 Mb. each month.
There is an RV shop in Grand Marais, but I don't know anything about it. When I was there, it was closed. There is an aftermarket auto store in town, maybe a NAPA. You can get bearings, grease, etc. there, though you may have to have them ship it in. There is an Airstream dealer in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. If you need advice, you can call their shop, or call Airstream customer service. You may need to call each to check on bearing, race, castellated nut, brake parts, washer and other part numbers as the NAPA dealer won't know them. I found a shop that could press a new race in also. I know all of this because I had a wheel bearing fail while on the Gunflint Trail. The results of the bearing failure were not pretty, but I fixed it. If the bearing got really hot (before you checked it—it may have cooled off), the brake drum (hub) may have been worn inside and you may have to order a new one.
If things are not too bad and you have tools, it can be fixed in a few hours. Getting parts will take the most time, but the NAPA store can usually get things overnight.
I hope you get to enjoy those provincial parks soon.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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08-04-2015, 05:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
Montgomery
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 262
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Gene, thank you. We are fixed now thanks to Greg's welding at about 5 Miles on the Gunflint .everything you say about parts availability was spot on. More later
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TAC AL-26 WBCCI 2626
Montgomery, Alabama
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08-04-2015, 06:16 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
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Al,
OMG, I know you keep your rig road ready so it certainly wasn't owner neglect or abuse. We're so glad you're rolling again.
I always carry four full sets of extra bearings, grease, and seals should an axel problem appear. I would be super bummed by an event similar to yours. I guess I'll have to add a drum, brake set and spindle kit to the spares.
Dave
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08-05-2015, 10:37 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Glad you could get your rig fixed. They never break parked at home, just on the road.
Best way to travel is to have your servants tow a parts wagon and tools behind you. Sine it has been said all Airstream owners are millionaires, this should be no problem though a million dollars just doesn't go as far as it used to.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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08-10-2015, 01:03 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
Montgomery
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 262
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Thanks everyone . Now have a
ALL NEW BEARINGS , synthetic grease, another brake assembly but no internet service....trailer service from Woody's RV in Thunder Bay Excellent, airstream Savy and Quick.
Details on the blog if I get stronger connection. Passing Wawa on way to Lake Superior PP
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TAC AL-26 WBCCI 2626
Montgomery, Alabama
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08-10-2015, 01:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Good to hear you guys are up and running.
Take care and travel safe,
Maggie
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08-10-2015, 01:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,320
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Good to hear your back on the road.
Last year when I changed out the axles I replaced the Chinese bearings with some Timken bearings. I took a set of the old bearings and races, cleaned them up, greased them, put them in a plastic bag as part of my emergency kit.
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1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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08-10-2015, 02:23 PM
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Len and Jeanne
2005 16' International CCD
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Creston Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,793
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What a beautiful part of the world. Though I wouldn't be surprised if parts of it have no cell phone service at all. We have several dead zones in the mountains of BC close to where we live.
Thankfully you're on the road again.
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08-10-2015, 10:04 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Remember when you are in Terra Incognita, there be dragons there.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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08-10-2015, 10:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy, and go good with ketchup.
Sometimes the dragon wins....
(Punch lines from two of my favorite cartoons.)
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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08-12-2015, 06:46 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
Montgomery
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 262
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We have emerged from the internet blackout zones with the help of the kind folks at the Massey ON public Library, open tonight from 7-9pm and we needed every minute to post a few blog events. thanks to all for your encouragement.
For Now we are only left with lug torque neurosis and ongoing appreciation for the "kindness of Strangers"
Did you know that you can Press DOWN on your torque wrench and avoid back strain?
Do you think that the stranger that told me that if I use an extension on my torque wrench that I should add 10# is correct??
my extension is 6" ( and I typed that without even a smirk, since I am in the Library) so what formula should I use to determine proper torque???
Al, attempting to stir up something else to think about while listening or wheel bearing noises....
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TAC AL-26 WBCCI 2626
Montgomery, Alabama
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08-12-2015, 07:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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I had a wheel fall off the Interstate last week....have heard so much about torque that my eyes are crossing.
Be safe, you two.
Maggie
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08-12-2015, 08:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Davenport
, Iowa
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,148
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Al & Patti; sorry to hear about your misfortune. Good luck on the rest of your trip.
How s Patti's knee doing?
It was good meeting you two at Moraine View and than seeing you again at Thomson
When is it you are due in Maine?
Mike & Dana
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08-13-2015, 04:46 AM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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With a torque wrench, extending it with a breaker bar will make it easier to use but the wrench will click the same way when you reach the foot lbs. you set it at.
Gene
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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08-13-2015, 05:28 AM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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At the risk of having a corner torn off my Man Card......
My torque wrench came with a little instruction book, and I actually read the directions. OK, let the jokes begin now....
The instructions say that an extension will NOT throw off the torque measurements as long as it's in line with the socket and the connection on the wrench. So as long as you have a 90 degree angle between the handle and the end of the socket, you're golden. Where you get into trouble is if you use one of those "knuckle" type connectors between the wrench and the socket (the kind of fitting that lets you bend around things and reach into odd places that a straight line extension can't get into).
Oh, and it doesn't matter how long your "extension" is. As long as it stays 90 degrees to the handle.
Hope this muddies the water some.
Jim
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08-13-2015, 06:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
Hilltop Lakes
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,767
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Absolutely right!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim & Susan
At the risk of having a corner torn off my Man Card......
My torque wrench came with a little instruction book, and I actually read the directions. OK, let the jokes begin now....
The instructions say that an extension will NOT throw off the torque measurements as long as it's in line with the socket and the connection on the wrench. So as long as you have a 90 degree angle between the handle and the end of the socket, you're golden. Where you get into trouble is if you use one of those "knuckle" type connectors between the wrench and the socket (the kind of fitting that lets you bend around things and reach into odd places that a straight line extension can't get into).
Oh, and it doesn't matter how long your "extension" is. As long as it stays 90 degrees to the handle.
Hope this muddies the water some.
Jim
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Jim has it right. Extensions that keep the socket in line with the drive part on the wrench handle do not change torque. They just enable us to use the wrench without busting our knuckles on the tire.
Extensions that have the effect of making the wrench handle longer, or shorter, are the ones that affect torque. There is a formula to calculate how much it changes, but you find that in aircraft work, not lug nuts.
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08-14-2015, 02:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1997 25' Safari
Montgomery
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 262
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My DW comments that a "knuckle", however useful in some applications, is seldom an adequate substitute for a sturdy extension. There is also commentary on the extension of my extension, but that has be redacted...
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TAC AL-26 WBCCI 2626
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08-14-2015, 04:00 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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When you are senior citizen, you are allowed to read instructions without risking your man card. I find that reading them helps save time unless they were badly translated from Chinese. Then all bets are off.
I think a knuckle on my extension could be quite interesting if I could lock it straight or unlock it and try a different direction. I guess the safest thing would be to consult a surgeon.
Gene
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