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Old 05-15-2008, 05:46 PM   #15
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The one year waiting list is pretty much correct from what we can tell. We've had our $99 refundable deposit down since last fall and were told that we could expect ours in Jan '09. We recently received notice asking us to confirm our options and letting us know that our car would be available at a dealership in Winston-Salem, NC but no delivery date as yet. We're looking forward to using this little unit around town but not on the major highways. We figure if we don't like it we can unload it in a hurry due to the long waiting list. We saw our first one near here just last week and it still had the paper dealer plates. We also took note on a email video that the thing has passed the highest crash test rate against a full sized Mercedes sedan. Hmmm. Not to certain I'd want to be the test dummy however. We're looking forward to the next step in the order process. Measuring the Smart Car and our Corvette we find they will park bumper to bumper in our garage. Smart!
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:25 PM   #16
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No offense, but I'm not sure most American's get it. Vehicles like the SMART are intended to be urban and inter city vehicles, not long distance commuter cars. Their extremely small size makes them perfect for tight parking spaces and low speed maneuvering (and collisions) and not much else.
You are so correct - these were designed to perpendicular park to the curb so that you can get 2 cars in a standard size parallel car slot. In Rome they have really had an impact on the shortage of parking where these cars get special days in the city over other cars on traffic reduction days.

On the highway or interstate - I would go with something larger - in the city I would really think I would give this car a good look.

I wonder if one was equipped with a Hensley could I tow a 27 CCD.....
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:34 PM   #17
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i had a few thoughts (i know, it's shocking).

is mr. bean going to get one?

i remember a 1978 dodge colt getting 50 mpg on the highway.

we should be able to do a lot better by now!
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:07 PM   #18
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yeah, I don't get how these are all that "smart"...unless they're, like, wicked cheap, or something. seems that something that small oughtta be able to get better than 41mpg. Heck, I got only 3 less than that in our old Mazda protoge, without trying. (i.e. "driving conservatively"). It seated 5 adults comfortably, and you could put a weeks worth of groceries for those people in the trunk at the same time. AND it had a/c and a radio!
And I hear they need Hi-test also, 41mpg plus premium, Make sense?
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:30 PM   #19
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About crash testing...There's an interesting video on the web from Briton showing a Smart Car controlled by remote control hitting an angled concrete barrier at about 65 MPH....surprisingly, the car's RH door still opened...and the dummy behind he wheel was in one piece...but as the commentators pointed out - the car survived in good shape, but the driver would not survive the 65-0 speed change...our bodies are not built to take that kind of punishment!

Yes the car might survive a bad crash, but it's occupants probably won't in a high speed type event! It's not a slur on the Smart Car, but of any high speed crash in general.

We stopped by the Smart Car dealer in Sacto a couple of weeks after they opened...we had to really twist their arms to get them to open one up so we could look inside. They had about 8 sold units, and were keeping two for demo's on their lot. Their excuse for not letting us look at them was that there was a big waiting list, so why should we waste our time letting us look! Incredible! They didn't use those exact words, but that was their attitude! Talk about Snobs!

Some smart MoHo Mfg will probably make a model with a small garage for the Smart Car and include it with the rig! A perfect match, indeed!
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:10 PM   #20
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About crash testing...There's an interesting video on the web from Briton showing a Smart Car controlled by remote control hitting an angled concrete barrier at about 65 MPH....surprisingly, the car's RH door still opened...and the dummy behind he wheel was in one piece...but as the commentators pointed out - the car survived in good shape, but the driver would not survive the 65-0 speed change...our bodies are not built to take that kind of punishment!

Yes the car might survive a bad crash, but it's occupants probably won't in a high speed type event! It's not a slur on the Smart Car, but of any high speed crash in general.

We stopped by the Smart Car dealer in Sacto a couple of weeks after they opened...we had to really twist their arms to get them to open one up so we could look inside. They had about 8 sold units, and were keeping two for demo's on their lot. Their excuse for not letting us look at them was that there was a big waiting list, so why should we waste our time letting us look! Incredible! They didn't use those exact words, but that was their attitude! Talk about Snobs!

Some smart MoHo Mfg will probably make a model with a small garage for the Smart Car and include it with the rig! A perfect match, indeed!
Already done!

IIRC, it's a Travel Supreme 450M with a rear garage where the diesel usually goes. It's built on a Freightliner mid-engine chassis and the 'garage' will acommodate a Mini Cooper, 2 motorcycles, a trike, or definitely a Smart.

Only problem with this scenario is that the manufacturer.....Travel Supreme, closed it's doors about a month ago.I've heard rumors that they are in the process of being bought by Jayco, but we'll see.
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:21 PM   #21
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One way to take a smart car along with you. Saw it yesterday in South Texas.


Seems like a sharp turn could take that little sucker out in a jiffy! Jack knifing would definitely be a real bummer...
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Old 05-15-2008, 09:23 PM   #22
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I see a lot of them here in Ontario. I have heard the ones sold in the U.S. are gas, the ones here are diesel and get 85 mpg. I looked at one a few years ago and the leg room is more space than my truck. They run 70 and 80 mph here on the highway all the time.

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Old 05-15-2008, 11:08 PM   #23
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Smart Cars have been in Europe for 5+ years or more. Accident safety ratings and stats have shown that they are safe. My family in Naples, Italy have one and think it's great. I would buy one here but there is a waiting list a mile long.

Physics aside, and there is no way of beating the laws of physics - these cars are safer than say a MGB, or a Yugo but I would think you would still lose with a F250 in a headon with a 18-wheeler - physics you know .
Not many vehicles would fare well in a head on with a F250, or an 18 wheeler....
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A friend of mine at work went into the Smart Car dealership and drove out with a blue one with the peal back convertible top. The lady that ordered it a year ago is now 8 months pregnant so my friend got lucky. She let me drive it around and if the top hadn't been set in the open position, I wouldn't have been able to get in there. When I sat up straight, my head was out the top. It has a three cylinder engine between the rear wheels and as mentioned, no AC nor power steering. Probably no room for either of those. All of the body panels are replaceable so if she wants to change the color from blue to red, she just has the plastic panels replaced. The entire car is built around a roll cage. I guess if you get in an accident and the doors are stuck, just stick your feet out and you could walk to the hospital.

She also said that the entire care is biodegradable and would break completely down in a landfill. The interior space was designed to fit a case of Guinness either in the passenger seat or in the small back area behind the seats, above the engine compartment. The hood is only about 8" tall and the only accessible things under there are the fill spouts for the washer fluid and one other fluid fill spout, probably the radiator.

Not for me since I drive close to 30 miles to work one way but a fun little commuter vehicle for running to the store.

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Old 05-16-2008, 12:01 AM   #25
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We have friends in Vancouver, BC, who have owned 2 of the diesel Smart Cars for three years. She regularly drives her purple one from Vancouver to Kamloops and verifies the 85 + mpg. We thought about loading into the back of our pickup and it wouldn't fit between the wheel wells

So, what's so "Smart" about the US version??? Gas engine that drinks Premium & gets 41 mpg???

We own a 2000 Toyota Echo, 2 door, manual, barebones, etc. The car can truly seat 4 adults & has a trunk that won't quit! On a trip from the SF Bay area to Bellingham, we got an honest 50 mpg - around town, 35 mpg, hauling people, groceries, boxes, etc.

. . . . and, this model is no longer in production . . .
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