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Old 07-14-2011, 01:56 PM   #1
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Streaming Thru National Parks

Good afternoon.

I've been reading and living vicariously through the threads of those of us who are fortunate enough to be on the road with our AS's. I came across the thread from "Hagarstream" (I think that's right) and they mentioned driving through Yellowstone and past "Old Faithful".

That made me wonder the following: Are we permitted to tow our streams through the National Parks even if we aren't camping there?

Just wondering -- for future reference. One of these days we are planning to start heading West on trips our there with "Lola", our '99 Safari 25'.

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PS -- Thanks so much for allowing us to tag along through your wonderful stories.
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Old 07-14-2011, 02:22 PM   #2
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Yes.
Most national parks and national monuments have visitor centers also.
Sure, there are some roads that are closed to trailers or are too steep and twisty.
most national parks have an entrace fee, so you will need one of the passes if you do it much.
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Old 07-14-2011, 02:42 PM   #3
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Entrance fees to National Parks, National Forests, National Monuments, etc. can be covered by an $80 annual pass. For seniors 63 and over, a lifetime pass is $10; and it covers the same items. This does not cover camping, shuttle buses, and any concessionaire services. However, even at $80 per year, it's a bargain.

More info at: America the Beautiful - National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass

We have used this pass for entrance to Yosemite, Sequoia, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Rocky Mountain NP, Great Sand Dunes, Grand Canyon, Joshua Tree, Guadalupe Mountains, Carlsbad Caverns and numerous other places.

Also, the senior pass qualifies for 1/2 off on camping fees, also a bargain.
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While the subject is extended to entrance fees for parks, be aware that most states have senior pass cards also, which gives you reduced or no fee for the entrance to state parks. Check with your Parks and Recreation Depts.
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:54 PM   #5
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If Glacier is on your itinerary, it is a beautiful park to visit, but you'll need to take the trailer to the other side by a highway the goes around the park. The road through the park can handle pickups and SUVs but not much more. As far as I know the road across Rocky Mountain National Park is not restricted, but it is best left to the more experienced drivers if towing a larger trailer.
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What would you consider a 'larger trailer'? Is a 27FB considered a large trailer or a small one in the grand scheme of things?
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The senior pass (which now has a very long and unmemorable name) is available when you are 62, not 63, for $10. It will get you and anyone in the car into the federal area and is good for a lifetime. It lets you into all parks and national monuments for free and you pay half for camping in them and national forests. Some things you pay the same as everyone else—to go into Cape Hatteras Lighthouse costs, for example, though the park has free entry for everyone. Places with parking garages offer no breaks either (Hoover Dam and Mt. Rushmore, for ex.). So they do have loopholes to this, but still, it is a big bargain and I doubt it will last much longer for newbies.

Most roads are ok. Some parks have 4WD roads as well as normal ones. The Going to the Sun Highway at Glacier is also restricted.

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Entrance fees to National Parks, National Forests, National Monuments, etc. can be covered by an $80 annual pass. For seniors 63 and over, a lifetime pass is $10; and it covers the same items. This does not cover camping, shuttle buses, and any concessionaire services. However, even at $80 per year, it's a bargain.

More info at: America the Beautiful - National Parks and Federal Recreational Lands Pass

We have used this pass for entrance to Yosemite, Sequoia, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, Rocky Mountain NP, Great Sand Dunes, Grand Canyon, Joshua Tree, Guadalupe Mountains, Carlsbad Caverns and numerous other places.

Also, the senior pass qualifies for 1/2 off on camping fees, also a bargain.
A minor correction. The senior lifetime pass age is 62. I just got mine last week. Its an amazing deal!
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Senior pass at 62, eh? Six more months and counting ...

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What would you consider a 'larger trailer'? Is a 27FB considered a large trailer or a small one in the grand scheme of things?
I think for lots of state and national parks, 27' is getting into the "large" category. Often there will be some sites where it'll fit, and some that are a bit too tight. There were definitely some sites at Tyler State Park that would have been a bit tight for my 24' trailer, but the one they put is in was quite spacious (if a bit of work for an amateur like me to back into.)
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Have run into a lot of national park campground sites with a 25' limit. with an airstream you can sometimes fudge it.
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Have run into a lot of national park campground sites with a 25' limit. with an airstream you can sometimes fudge it.
Yup - that's part of why I sought and got a 23 footer. Have yet to find the site I couldn't get into ... though some have been a bit of a challenge! That's all part of the adventure.
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This is a neat thread. Great question and answers. Thanks to all "that have done it" . You can never beat experience.
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What would you consider a 'larger trailer'? Is a 27FB considered a large trailer or a small one in the grand scheme of things?
http://www.rmnp.com/RMNP-Areas-TrailRidge.HTML

As this site points out, 8 miles of this spectacular byway is above 11,000' and crests at over 12,000'. The generally accepted figure for a normally aspirated gasoline engine is a 3% loss of horsepower for every 1,000' gain in elevation. If you figure 300hp @ sea level, expect the performance of a 200hp motor up there. Coming down is just as important to have a solid transmission and all the brakes functioning. What constitutes a large trailer depends on the equipment and the driver.

Some would consider the stress and strain on the equipment and choose to leave the trailer in the campground and take the TV solo to the top to enjoy the vistas. There are many turnouts along the route that would have to be bypassed with trailer in tow.

If you want to see snow capped peaks in July, ice cold streams, spectacular scenery, wildlife and wildflowers that are seldom seen elsewhere, this is a must visit park. As with the other parks, each has unique attributes that make each special. Enjoy the trip.
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