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Old 08-18-2016, 11:42 AM   #15
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the 15 ft rhino will not fit in the tube under the trailer
My kit may have been 2 10' sections.
One 10' section is in the storage tube under the trailer.
The other 10' section is in the rear bumper storage compartment.
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Good info for the newbie here!!!
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I will second Jammer's advice on the 30 amp power cord. You didn't mention if you have dual ACs, but if you do, you will only need to use one much of the time. That big 50 amp is a bugger to handle, especially when it is cold.

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Old 08-18-2016, 12:45 PM   #18
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Holy crap! (pun intended) This is a very informative thread and I really appreciate all of your knowledge transfer contributions! I love this site and need to become a contributor! If anyone else wishes to share thoughts/experiences, please feel free!

Doug, ref. your post to
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"... check out the Sewer Solution system with two 10' hoses, much cleaner operation... "
I was unaware of this product--I've added it to my purchase list, along with the slinky stuff. Is it possible to cap the ends after rinsing so there's no leakage during storage/transport?

Protaganist, I'll definitely heed your advice on the 5' increments. I'll stay with the 15' kit, and lop two 5' sections off to use as replacement hose, but also buy another four 5' extensions with the coupling hardware and a bunch of extra caps and rubber gaskets. I've upgraded the 20' Sidewinder to a 30' (unless you suggest staying with the 20' (after all, the 30 can do 20 but the 20 can't do 30). :-)

Along the lines of Doug's post about the Sewer Solution, I saw the Thetford SANI-CON displayed in CampingWorld and couldn't help but wonder if folks were using it and whether or not it was worth the cost over a standard slinky setup.

Also, regarding black hose/slinky cleaning, do you guys soak/bleach your hoses after use?

I saw that caps are available for garden/drinking hoses ... seems like a good idea to keep foreign matter out of the hoses once they're dry (assuming it wouldn't be good to cap/seal wet hoses).

Jammer, I'll be sure to add a HAZMAT suit and Scott SCBA to my list too. :-)
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:49 PM   #19
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I will second Jammer's advice on the 30 amp power cord. You didn't mention if you have dual ACs, but if you do, you will only need to use one much of the time. That big 50 amp is a bugger to handle, especially when it is cold.

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Yes, I do have 50A service with two A/C's in the Classic 30. I've added the cord that Jammer suggested and just checked the plug info ... it appears that the 30A cord he suggested will plug into the Honda EU2000iA Companion generator's 26.6A outlet via the Honda L530P-RV30R Generator RV Adapter too! Awesome. Thanks Jammer and Richard!
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Good info for the newbie here!!!
Absolutely Jim - couldn't agree more! The long-timers don't think about this cuz they've been doing it for so long ... but us newbies on the other hand ...
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Order 2 large and small one for cable,they keep it quick and easy. Order on line Home Depot Good luck
Grateful2, what is this called? I can't tell what it is and the pic won't resize to something legible. Thanks, Rich
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our AS is 34'. We carry two 25' dedicated water hoses and a separate one for rinsing the holding tank and/or hoses. We carry two 10' sections and one expandable 5' section of sewer hose. And an extra 25' of 30 amp power cord. normally one of each is enough but if you are at a park where hookups are in between RV spaces and have to back way up to fit your TV you might need the extensions.
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I think the PO had come up with some good solutions on his own.
We just reassured him that he had made good choices.
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Old 08-18-2016, 02:10 PM   #24
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I think the PO had come up with some good solutions on his own.
We just reassured him that he had made good choices.
m.honyThat's somewhat true (that I had some ideas), however, this wasn't necessarily about reassurance as much as it turned out to be adding value with ideas that I hadn't considered. There are so many excellent ideas here, that we'll need to incorporate the majority of them into our solution. Also, you said a 100" section of RG6 coax ... did you mean 100'? (ref. trees/shade) ...

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Nice thread. 😃 Book mark for future reference.
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I used one for a while and don't know quite what people see in them. They work OK until someone flushes a tampon or something, in which case you will need a head-to-toe hazmat suit to avoid getting anything on you when you clean up the mess.
We used ours for last seven years, about 1400 nights camping and it's still working fine. Remember this is just a water-powered system, unlikely to make a mess. I like it because it's clean and simple to use and stow.

It is showing its age as plastic things do, and have thought about one of the macerator pump units. A little faster than our water powered Sewer Solution (no tampons in use here). Any good/bad experience with the electric macerator units?
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Any good/bad experience with the electric macerator units?
My Interstate came with a macerator pump, and I wouldn't trade it for anything but another one.

It would be nice if Airstream had thought to wrap it in heat tape because the way they installed it the pump always retains enough water to freeze— no problem for winterizing since you can pump pink stuff through it, but definitely a problem for winter camping when you've got to empty the holding tanks before winterizing back home and the pump is frozen.

But then again, I suppose it's hard to use a Sewer Solution for winter camping, too…
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Not true. As I said, the longer the hose, the larger the diameter should be, to minimize hydraulic losses that will reduce your flow rate. Especially when the campground doesn't have very high water pressure to begin with.

Here's an example.
*If you have a 25' 1/2" diameter hose, with 40psi of water pressure at the spigot, your maximum flow rate will be about 24 gallons per minute— not counting the additional length of plumbing inside the trailer between the inlet and the faucet or shower head that further reduces the flow rate.
* If the hose is increased to 50 feet long and 5/8" in diameter, the maximum flow would be 22 gpm. But if you use 50' of 1/2" hose the flow rate slows to just 12 gpm.
* If you increase the length to 75 feet and the diameter to 3/4", the maximum flow rate is 27 gpm. But if you use 75' of 1/2" hose, the flow rate drops to 9 gpm.
So for every 25 feet of length, the hose diameter should go up by 1/8" to keep nearly the same rate of flow in the hose for a given water pressure. If you carry a 25' 1/2" hose as your main, then a 25' spare hose should be 5/8" diameter, and you can hook up the larger-diameter hose at the spigot and the smaller diameter hose at the trailer to minimize losses in flow rate.
These hoses are for an Airstream, not a fire truck.

The flow rate of the fixtures is specified by uniform codes and is supposed to be a maximum of 2.2 GPM at 60PSI each for the kitchen and shower and 1.5 GPM for the lavatory. Typically in an RV we use one fixture at a time. Let's look at the 2.2 GPM flow rate using the friction loss tables for PEX pipe, which is similar in frictional characteristics to vinyl hose.

https://www.rehau.com/download/86839...oss-tables.pdf

At 2.2 GPM, there's a 4.26 PSI difference in pressure loss between 1/2" and 5/8" pipe per 100 feet length. The loss is linear with pipe length so for 75 feet we would be looking at a difference of around 3.2 PSI. That's an insignificant difference at 60 PSI. At less than 60 PSI, the maximum flow at each fixture will be lower, and so the difference will be less.

For the occasional situation where someone is washing dishes and the shower is going, we might have 4.4 GPM. That works out to an 11 PSI difference at 75 feet and 60 PSI, not a big deal. I'd rather save the space in my shore connections locker.

My practical experience bears out these realities.
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