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Old 11-14-2008, 11:14 AM   #127
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Hi Michelle - I had two random thoughts (two in one day, that's a record!). First some people here probably think being involved in two accidents says something negative about your driving abilities, however I know that it's just the opposite.

Simply put, you drive more miles in six months than most others do in six years, so it is more likely that you'll be on the road and exposed to damage than those whose Airstreams are primarily "yard art". Secondly - your 'stream survived TWO serious accidents... repeat SURVIVED. How many people total theirs in relatively less serious circumstances.

#2 - VISIBILITY: I did see ONE thing on another Airstream last week that caused me to pause and think. Your story has turned that into a "go out and DO it" change to my Airstream. An Airstreamer from Richmond put 1 inch yellow reflective tape all around the edge of the bellypan of his Airstream - It's the kind truckers use and it DOES glow in the dark. I find it unbelievable that the police officer who pancaked you couldn't see a combination that was over 40 ft. long, but I've decided that if I'm towing in the rain or misty weather or at twilight, I want the extra reflectivity. Heck I might even go the "Artstream" route and put in blue tubular lighting around the belly pan and turn it on while running!

Short of painting the airstream hot pink, I'll do everything I can to make it stick out like the proverbial sore thumb.

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Old 11-14-2008, 12:38 PM   #128
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Well the determination was made this morning. She will be fixed and they will be going after the police dept insurance for the repair and deductable. I will be picking her up after the first of the year.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:45 PM   #129
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#2 - VISIBILITY: I did see ONE thing on another Airstream last week that caused me to pause and think. Your story has turned that into a "go out and DO it" change to my Airstream. An Airstreamer from Richmond put 1 inch yellow reflective tape all around the edge of the bellypan of his Airstream - It's the kind truckers use and it DOES glow in the dark. I find it unbelievable that the police officer who pancaked you couldn't see a combination that was over 40 ft. long, but I've decided that if I'm towing in the rain or misty weather or at twilight, I want the extra reflectivity. Heck I might even go the "Artstream" route and put in blue tubular lighting around the belly pan and turn it on while running!

Short of painting the airstream hot pink, I'll do everything I can to make it stick out like the proverbial sore thumb.

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Paula,
I have been thinking about the visibility issues. I had all my lights on. He hit my truck first. Granted it is silver too.
Some red/white reflective tape truckers use on thier trailer would be a great idea! I think they should come from the factory that way. I know 2air has some one his.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:50 PM   #130
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#2 - VISIBILITY: I did see ONE thing on another Airstream last week that caused me to pause and think. Your story has turned that into a "go out and DO it" change to my Airstream. An Airstreamer from Richmond put 1 inch yellow reflective tape all around the edge of the bellypan of his Airstream - It's the kind truckers use and it DOES glow in the dark. . .
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That's a GREAT idea. Might also be worthwhile to put reflective tape on the bottom.

A few years ago in Wisconsin a trailer rolled on its side and a bus driver plowed right into it in the dark. If it had tape on the undercarriage he would have seen it.

Five people died and 29 injured.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:42 PM   #131
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Glad to hear you will be able to continue on your travels, then return to get your rig. I have two Airstreams in my driveway. You and Sara are welcome to stay in one if you come through Chattanooga.

Don't forget to take care of yourself through all of this process!
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Old 11-14-2008, 02:06 PM   #132
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Michelle, it's probably best not to post specifics about how the collision occurred on the Forum. You never know how a ambiguously worded sentence can come back at you. Your insurance company will handle it for the time being. Hiring a lawyer is up to you, but I'd wait until you see how your insurer is handling it (of course, I am a lawyer, so I may be looking at this differently than you since I'm used to dealing with insurance companies and when to push them). Colorado is not a no-fault state, so fault can be apportioned between the parties depending on what happened. It's called comparative negligence, but the various insurers will probably figure it out because they want to avoid the expense of going to court. If your insurer is not representing you properly, then you may need a lawyer to go after them. All accident investigations are handled by the Colorado State Troopers, not the local jurisdiction. How much deference the Troopers will give to the local guy will show in the investigative report which can take some time.

Glad to see you could make it to Jackson Center with only one snowstorm in the Colorado plains. They can be quite an experience and many people have spent the night in Limon over the years. At least you didn't have to sleep in your truck or spend the night sipping caffeine in the Flying J. I hope all this works out for you and I guess you will be spending some time at the factory. With all that trailer has been through, it's a testimony of how well they are built that you could tow it another 1,000 miles. I'd wonder if the frame is straight by now.

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Old 11-14-2008, 02:24 PM   #133
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Paula,
I have been thinking about the visibility issues. I had all my lights on. He hit my truck first. Granted it is silver too.
Some red/white reflective tape truckers use on thier trailer would be a great idea! I think they should come from the factory that way. I know 2air has some one his.
I worry about visibility issues as well. Our polished trailer was broadsided last December right after we completed a left turn in Baker, Ca on our way to Death Valley.....We have a red (wine colored) truck and the guy hit us (drove directly into us at a right angle) at the wheels of our trailer...and then the skin was peeled back as we continued going forward until we could stop. We were stunned wondering what that big pow sound was. He said his RV jumped out of park (he was exiting a restaurant driveway--The Mad Greek) and hit us but I think maybe he didn't really see the trailer due to the reflection of the sky (it was about 4 pm on a clear day). It is enough to give one pause....

Glad you are going to get your trailer back fixed up from the factory! paula
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:31 PM   #134
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Michelle - since the trailer is your primary residence can you get them to cover the cost of having to live else where for 2 months?
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Old 11-14-2008, 05:29 PM   #135
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It was unfortunate that you had to witness that horrific accident! How else would the authorities have known the police vehicle was going 100 mph without your testimony? With that much speed vs a slow moving concrete truck, the officer surely died from the impact!

To be a witness to that event must be life changing!
I only witnessed the aftermath. His speed was determined by the videotape from his patrol car dash camera which was recording at the time. The officer lived due to the fact that the truck was luckily moving forward and not stopped in the road. Actual impact speed was likely equivalent to under 50mph once you figure in the fact that he locked his brakes well before impact and subtract the truck's speed. The cop ended up with both of his legs broken, several broken ribs, one broken wrist, a pretty serious concussion and one nasty case of whiplash. It scattered pieces of Chevy Caprice (the old square type) over a huge area and shoved the dashboard of the cruiser back into the driver's seat.(thus the broken legs) The engine and transmission ended up under the middle of the car, The front wheels where under the front seats, the hood was torn completely off and the front bumper was roughly where the foot wells for the front seats should have been. The guy is lucky to be alive. He ended up staying out of work for over a year recovering.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:18 PM   #136
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I am letting my insurnace company handle it that is thier job. When thier is over and the outcome is not to my satisfaction then I will decide if a lawyer is needed.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:23 PM   #137
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It will not be necessary. I will be staying with friends on my way to florida and with my sister over the holidays. I may need one Hotel Stay on the way back to pick up the trailer at the first of the year.
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So Michelle -- they'll start on it when? And then how long will it take them.

It didn't look like it was impacted as far as the A-frame/main frame junction -- mostly an outrigger affected. Do you have a more clear idea what they're saying was damaged down below?

Please, no holidays talk yet.
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So Michelle -- they'll start on it when? And then how long will it take them.

It didn't look like it was impacted as far as the A-frame/main frame junction -- mostly an outrigger affected. Do you have a more clear idea what they're saying was damaged down below?

Please, no holidays talk yet.
The insurance company gave thier approval. They are going to start on it Monday. Given the holiday breaks they expect to be finished about the first of the year.
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The insurance company gave thier approval. They are going to start on it Monday. Given the holiday breaks they expect to be finished about the first of the year.

Great News, Michelle.
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