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Old 01-05-2015, 05:03 PM   #71
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The Squeeze in Canyonlands NP—I know a 1990 Nissan Base Model (yes, that's what they called it) pickup will fit through unharmed. Great truck—145,000 miles and only $400 in repairs. It is probably still going somewhere.

Jim, to answer your question, all I know is "scary" and "roads" and anything vaguely associated with it.

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So, how does one find a GPS, App or map collection that warns of the roads to avoid when towing a TT? For example, I see that AllStays Camp & RV warns about a road grade of 6% on route 82 at Independence Pass, and warns of a 7% grade for 3 miles at Fremont Pass on route 92 on the way to Leadville, but I don't know what it might be missing.
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Old 01-05-2015, 06:56 PM   #73
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Old 01-05-2015, 07:57 PM   #74
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B.C. is 80% mountains. Route planning = choose your poison.

Was I stupid to tackle this stretch on my first trip? I had no choice. Was one 'ell of an initiation, though, especially when the trailer brakes were set too high and the poor trailer was screaming and jumping down the mountain like a rabid jack rabbit......

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So, how does one find a GPS, App or map collection that warns of the roads to avoid when towing a TT? For example, I see that AllStays Camp & RV warns about a road grade of 6% on route 82 at Independence Pass, and warns of a 7% grade for 3 miles at Fremont Pass on route 92 on the way to Leadville, but I don't know what it might be missing.
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I suspect the grades are more important for 18 wheeler traffic. These grades do not bother me at all.

It is the WIDTH that concerns me. I have never been on an asphalt road or highway that was difficult to travel on dry surfaces and a steep grade. Slower going down and find a comfortable gear going up.

Glacier National Park, Montana and Bighorn Mountains, Wyoming have similar grades... but .... for ... a .... long... way! Smell them brakes from the other traffic... time to slow it down by down shifting and sporadic braking to maintain the screaming passenger volume to a minimum.
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True enough. My previous example of Chinook pass on route 410 in WA is a case in point. While it can be a little exciting due to the drop-offs, expansive views and grades of 6%, it isn't scary-narrow. As a result, it's not all that worrisome as long as you shift down and carefully manage your speed on the down slope to prepare well for the sharp curves before you get to them.
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6 or 7% grades should not be a problem for a well powered tow vehicle. Interstates in the mountains often have 7% grades. But going down hill means using the gears as much as possible and using the brakes as little as possible. Modern automatic transmission—at least some of them—automatically downshift when going down hill, but they don't shift as much as towing requires, so you have to downshift yourself. They are engineered for not towing.

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Have any of you folks run the Hana Road on Maui. 400 turns in perhaps 35 miles. Twice we stopped to clear the road. CRAZY locals who came screaming at us expecting us to chicken out and pull off. All this on a cliff face way above the crashing surf. In Pennsylvania we call a road like that a trail!!!! We were grateful to see a yellow line down the middle near its end.
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Have any of you folks run the Hana Road on Maui. 400 turns in perhaps 35 miles. Twice we stopped to clear the road. CRAZY locals who came screaming at us expecting us to chicken out and pull off. All this on a cliff face way above the crashing surf. In Pennsylvania we call a road like that a trail!!!! We were grateful to see a yellow line down the middle near its end.

Yes, once was enough but have done it twice! First time 28 years ago in a sub compact. Second time got smart and traded the bigger rental car for a Jeep. More fun and no worries about having to pull off! The second time took advantage of the Jeep and went all the way around where the rental car companies tell you not to go....


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