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Old 05-18-2016, 03:49 PM   #29
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Thanks Brian. Where do you carry your gas jerry cans please?

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Hi Peter. I carry two 2.5 gallon plastic gas cans which I carry empty in the front storage locker in the Airstream. When I need gas for the generators, I will stop an fill the can to about two gallons each. I fill the two generators from one. While the generators are running overnight, I leave the other gas can near the generators. I use this to top off the generators as needed.

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Old 05-18-2016, 05:22 PM   #30
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Thanks Brian, not wild about any gas tanks even "empty" stored in an enclosed space (incl. the gens in the TVs). Gas fumes are what explodes, not the liquid.

Doesn't take much . . .

Confirms going to propane gens as cost-effective IMO.

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Old 05-18-2016, 05:45 PM   #31
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Make light of it if you wish. I was just trying to remind people that a flimsy chain isn't very secure.
I carry 1000 lbs of work tools in my pickup at all times.
Including a battery operated grinder with cut off wheel.
It would take me about 45 seconds to cut through the toughest lock, chain or cable.
I don't think folks are making light of your comment - which is certainly valid - it is just that it still would seem to make sense to do what you reasonably can to improve the odds! Not every potential thief is as well equipped as you are - and hopefully they are the ones we will encounter!

(PS - I travel with a lot of those good tools too!)

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Old 05-18-2016, 09:20 PM   #32
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We will be at Big Meadows in a few weeks. Does everyone think it would be safe to leave our Honda generator out when we leave our campsite? Or is it likely to be stolen?
Well, now everyone on the www knows there's a Honda up for grabs?

I would just lock it with a bike cable as we do. That's about as best as you can do.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:01 PM   #33
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Well, now everyone on the www knows there's a Honda up for grabs?

I would just lock it with a bike cable as we do. That's about as best as you can do.
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I agree with Ted. Use a bicycle cable. In Las Vegas you will have a cable and no bike by morning in some areas. You must have good insurance deductibles. The generator can be balanced on the lap while peddling...

Where do you hide your extra cash while on your trip? You will need it to replace the Honda generator.

I parked my Toyota truck along the street in Cleveland, Ohio to look at a Geology book collection at a national used book store. They asked where I parked. I said out on the street. They said my truck radio was probably already.... stolen. It wasn't and they had me park in the fenced, gated parking lot for their employees.

A stolen Honda will bring $400 on any street corner. Maybe $250 if you are a good negotiator and do not pay with a credit card. Stolen, of course.

You are more likely to have your Airstream stolen from a RV Park if you do not have a durable Hitch Lock installed. I write upon my Honda generator my name and telephone number with a black magic marker. I apply the same on the inside of the removable section. At least then, you may get a telephone call and get it back for a $100 'Finder's Reward'...

So, What the Hell. Do what you want. When you report the Honda theft to the local Police Department, if they do not send out a crew to investigate... call it a cheap education.

Thieves are better prepared than you think. If you think they are not... this will be a good example for a future posting describing the entire ordeal.
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Old 05-19-2016, 06:13 AM   #34
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You all r taking the fun out of camping and beginning to sound like the media with their doom and gloom over the election.
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The pro thief will get the gen no matter what you do if given enough time. Nothing you can do about it. But, the opportunistic thief who just happens to be walking by and sees the gen can be deterred. Cable locks or anything can deter him. If he can't pick it up and run, he won't take it. When we motorcycle toured we would put as many as five cable type locks and other kryptonite locks through the wheels and frames of the two bikes. A pro could have still stolen them but someone looking at a chance to roll one away would be deterred. We also covered the bikes after locking them, if you cover your gen that will help. Only on one occasion did we find someone tried to take one of the bikes, but since they were tied together with multiple cables they failed. A pro would have cut all the cables and taken the bike. A non pro gave up, too much work.
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Myrtle Beach bike week we had our two motorcycles cabled together and to a post.

Next morning our two bikes are fine, but the bike next to mine is gone.....

Don't be an easy target....
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:50 AM   #37
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Both of our Honda 2000 generators (the set) were converted to propane only which removed the gasoline tank (GenConnex conversion).

I carry one Honda (with the 30 amp twist-lok outlet) inside the Mercedes under cover when towing the 23D. The hybrid Magnum MSH-3012 converter/inverter can draw enough extra power from the lithium battery to start the air conditioner and the single generator will keep it running. We added a front 30 amp power inlet and an automatic transfer switch to the 23D so the generator can be right by the front propane outlet and I have made a short six foot 30 amp cord to go from the generator to the trailer.

The Solaire grill we carry in the Mercedes has also been adapted to run off the front propane outlet.

I carry the two Honda units in the Ram 2500HD when towing the Classic (which has a camper shell with so much stuff and a couple of shipping blankets that they are not visible). I can also carry my spare 30 pound propane tank in the truck. One unit could run off the trailer front propane outlet, but I have a special dual hose with single regulator to run them both off of a single 30 pound propane tank.

When not actually running, the generators are put away as soon as they cool down. We fasten them when running to the "A" frame member of the 23D or wheel on the Classic using a "BOLT" cable lock system or two which are keyed to the door key of the truck.
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It is said that locks only keep honest people out. That said, anything you can do to slow a thief, make it noisier, make it more work, the more likely the crook will move to the next victim.


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So the take away is if you can't afford to lose one don't get one.
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No, I do not think it is safe to leave the Honda generator out while not at the campsite. Yet I have used a cable lock and left mine out in places and it was not stolen. But that is not something that I do often or would suggest that you do The generator is just a very tempting target for thieves trying to raise quick cash.
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We have used our Honda 2000 generator(s) on many occasions overnight in Wal-Mart parking lots all over the country. We use cable locks and tuck them under the rear bumper of the tow vehicle. Granted, these precautions are minimal at best. We decided a long time ago that if we wanted to travel extensively in our Airstream, there are certain risks. We take these risks in order to pursue our retirement travel dreams.

We have never had a security issue with our generators. Maybe it's because Wal-Mart has camera surveillance in their parking lots. We have overnighted at Wal-Marts in dicier areas. These usually have a security patrol that is out there all night.

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Lock or hide. Ditto on benefits of propane conversion.

Can you tell me more about propane conversion.
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