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Old 08-26-2014, 09:08 AM   #183
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Is it true that with a HA/PP hitch that you have to back up in more or less a straight line to hook up? I encountered a situation last night that made it impossible to do that. I had to hitch up at a fairly steep angle which turned out to be no big deal with my Blue Ox.

I suppose this is more of a convenience factor than a safety factor, but anything that limits your options in parking may cause safety related problems at times, such as an inability to get off the in some spots.

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Hi - I can only speak about the PP - no, it doesn't have to be straight on necessarily, in fact if you have to back in at an odd angle between truck and trailer, you can back in at that same odd angle when hitching up to leave.

What you have to worry about is aligning an X, Y and Z axis which sounds ridiculously complicated - but I found that what it boils down to is simply adjusting the WD jacks up or down and the head literally slides right on to the stinger. That's only needed if it binds while backing in (for me that's about 1/3 of the time).
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:11 AM   #184
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Even in 75 and 80 states there are an abundance of trucks doing about 65. As a rule I get in their traffic flow while letting the faster traffic pass to my left.

75 and 80 is too fast for a tongue mount trailer sitting on ST or LT tires.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:12 AM   #185
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Is it true that with a HA/PP hitch that you have to back up in more or less a straight line to hook up? I encountered a situation last night that made it impossible to do that. I had to hitch up at a fairly steep angle which turned out to be no big deal with my Blue Ox.
It stands to reason that if you can unhitch the trailer without the trailer or tow vehicle lurching as it comes loose, you ought to be able to hitch up again if you can get the tow vehicle into the same position it was in before, no matter if it's straight or at an angle.

But, if the tow vehicle lurches up or to either side, or the trailer tongue lurches down or to either side when the tow vehicle is uncoupled, then getting the hitch and tongue to mate up again becomes a lot more difficult.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:19 AM   #186
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There you go being logical again.

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There you go being logical again.
What can I say? Occupational hazard of being an engineer. It's only for a few more months, and then I can try being illogical after I retire. Some people would say that retiring at the age of 56 is kind of illogical anyway…
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:36 AM   #188
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Old 08-26-2014, 04:19 PM   #190
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I've been pretty lucky hitching the Hensley. Except for 2 times when there were rubberneckers "helping". Both times I finally just drove AWAY - to a vending machine where I got a bottle of water, then came back and started from scratch.

I have been wondering if it might be possible to insert the stringer into the hitch, prop the hitch up to the right angle with the orange leveler blocks, then back the truck onto the receiver? Opinions? Any reason not to try?

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Old 08-26-2014, 04:24 PM   #191
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That would even be more difficult as the hole for the stinger in the hitch head is slightly oversize where the vehicle receiver is not.

I haven't had any trouble so far, I just get out and look multiple tines as I approach the trailer.

I agree people helping do this kind of thing usually makes things harder.

As far as I am concerned, so far, the difference in backing into the Hensley and dropping the trailer on the ball is negligible. Maybe two minutes difference on average?
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It's all about your ability to think in 3 dimensions with a PPP, as opposed to 2 dimensions with a coupler-on-ball.

You have to be able to visualize height, angle of approach and tilt (both vertical and "twist" tilt relative to TV vs. AS, if that makes sense) All of those differences can be adjusted for with a combination of tongue jack and the use of the PPP jacks to exactly match the alignment between stinger and hitch box. And yes, you can hitch up easily when the TV and AS are in a "turn" alignment with each other AND on different tilts.

I'm not doing a good job with words here....hope it doesn't sound crazy!
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I've ignored this thread till now, but we were just in an accident yesterday. There was no way to prevent it, other than being a minute before or after the spot where it occurred.

Basically we were driving along a winding highway in BC to a nice lakeside campground, Bambi in tow, when we rounded a bend and saw a car stopped in the road in front of us. As Len brought us to a stop, I noticed a flipped car in the ditch next to me. Suddenly the truck and then the Bambi started bucking, to the horrible sound of breaking metal and glass. We didn't know what hit us-- or what we might have hit.

What happened was that the driver of the flipped car had dozed off behind the wheel, gone off the road, and hit a telephone/utility pole which snapped in half, just seconds previously. The top half of the pole was still attached to the wires, which had a lot of tension in them, and it was swaying out into the highway. We did not see it coming, and couldn't have evaded it if we did, due to the car stopped in front of us and cars coming the other way. This swaying top half of the pole grazed our truck and caused minor damage to it, but the Bambi took the full brunt of it. The whole front passenger-side area is badly smashed (with a telephone pole shaped dent) and the glass shattered; and then adjacent parts of the roof and front window frame got badly twisted.

The impact also snapped our sway bar in half, and threw the awning and one of the awning arms into the brush about 20 feel away. The interior cupboard above the front windows ripped loose from the wall, and fell on the dinette.

Fortunately we weren't injured at all, and the woman who flipped her car seemed reasonably OK with no noticeable injuries, although she was taken by ambulance to Creston. Another man and I got her out of her vehicle and sat her down while waiting for the paramedics.

I just want to second Paula's comment that an accident can happen so quickly-- and with things you can't even see-- that you can't necessarily prevent it.

We'll post some pictures. It's not a pretty sight. Now we're just waiting for the insurance adjuster to call. We've sent photos to the AS mechanics in Spokane and Penticton, BC, to get their sense of the Bambi's prospects for survival.

Happy to be alive and uninjured, Jeanne

p.s. We do drive with the propane turned off. Thankfully.
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Len & Jeanne - so sorry to hear about your accident and very glad you weren't physically injured! That really is a freak accident. Ugh! Be well...
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You are okay! That's what counts. The rest can be fixed or replaced. Nothing you could have done, just an accident. Peace,,,jim
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Jeanne...

That is truly a freak accident. I know that you and your husband might be a little banged up emotionally but I'm so glad you're OK physically. After you take care of the details find a nice quiet place to unwind for a few days.

All the best,
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