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Old 08-24-2014, 07:48 PM   #141
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RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Towing: Jackknife with Hensley

WBCCI members - anyone know these folks? Hope everyone is OK.

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How is that possible? I thought hensleys were perfect in every way and absolutely stopped any chance of sway.
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Logic begs the question,,,

Where is it stated that this accident was caused by sway?
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:54 PM   #143
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It is called sarcasm. In my experience logic has little to do with sarcasm.
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:58 PM   #144
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I know it was sarcasm, some sarcasm should be answered nonetheless.

Sarcasm caries weight, in modern America it is OFTEN mistaken for logic.

(Above,,, I decided not to escalate the situation by replying with sarcasm.)
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Let's keep it civil gentlemen. We're all members of the same community and we all share a common interest. The topic of this thread is learning more about safety by examining mishaps.

Again, I hope our fellow Streamers are OK - and I hope they participate in the forum and will give us some details of the accident.

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Let's keep it civil gentlemen. We're all members of the same community and we all share a common interest. The topic of this thread is learning more about safety by examining mishaps.

Again, I hope our fellow Streamers are OK - and I hope they participate in the forum and will give us some details of the accident.

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Wow,,,

I can have a conversation with a person who disagrees with my position and not get angry.

Peace ?

By the way. When I typed;

"Logic begs the question,,, Where is it stated that this accident was caused by sway?"

it was a legitimate question. It was to the point, but NOT intended to piss anyone off.
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How is that possible? I thought hensleys were perfect in every way and absolutely stopped any chance of sway.
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Logic begs the question,,,

Where is it stated that this accident was caused by sway?
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Wow,,,

I can have a conversation with a person who disagrees with my position and not get angry.

Peace ?

By the way. When I typed;

"Logic begs the question,,, Where is it stated that this accident was caused by sway?"

it was a legitimate question. It was to the point, but NOT intended to piss anyone off.

Hi, I was going to get into this argument earlier; I mean post about this. I don't believe that anyone said it was caused by sway, [correction; AWCHIEF mentioned sway] but Hensley claims that there has NEVER been a loss of control accident with their hitch. [at least that is what I believe that I read] This may be what AWCHIEF meant?
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Bob, you read and understood my post correctly.
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I am not aware of the claim;;;

"Hensley claims that there has NEVER been a loss of control accident with their hitch. "

If so this would be a bold claim, which would be impossible to defend. "Loss of control" is a very broad description with loads of undefined variables and no defined qualifiers.

I would like to see a link to this claim. If Hensley made this claim, they were stupid to do so.
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I am not aware of the claim;

"Hensley claims that there has NEVER been a loss of control accident with their hitch. "

If so this would be a bold claim, which would be impossible to defend.
It's also entirely false. Google the search term "Hensley hitch accident report," and read the first two links that pop up, to threads on RV.net and Woodalls. From 2003 to 2006 there were four reported accidents with a Hensley, about one per year. I'm sure they have been more since.
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Well of course the claim is false, but was the claim made?
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Wisdom?

As a relatively new Streamer, what do you more experienced folks want me to learn from this discussion? Few possibilities:

(1) Hensleys, and probably it's off-the-ball cousin, the ProPride, will assure that your trailer will never sway.

(2) Accidents are infrequent with OTB (off-the-ball) hitches given that sway, a major cause of accidents, is eliminated.

(3) Accidents are not at all infrequent with OTB (off-the-ball) hitches because: (a) sway really can occur with an OTB hitch, or (b) there are multiple other ways an accident can happen, or (c) both.

My goal is to keep my wife and I and the people around us on the road as safe as possible when I'm towing my Airstream. If I had to paint my TV pink and sing an aria while driving I'd do it (although the aria would be off-key). I'm looking to those with more experience than me for some expert wisdom.

Thanks,
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