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Old 03-21-2016, 10:21 AM   #1
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Route 160 across Colorado

planning our trip home leaving Arizona and wondered about using 160 across Colorado. Weather of course would be one determining factor, also any input from others that have traveled this route pulling.
Also wanted to stop at Mesa Verde National Park.
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Keep an eye on weather, if there is snow in the pass, chains will be required. Also, traffic will be very heavy as people head to the ski resort. After that, free and clear. Otherwise, it is a good road, not a lot of traffic, with services readily available in towns.


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Old 03-21-2016, 11:24 AM   #3
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Depends on what you mean by very heavy - in Houston/LA you have rush hour - we have rush second...

Road is great - passes - as passes go - are easy though be aware and take it easy going down hill Wolf Creek and you are good to go !

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Is there anything specifically hazardous about Wolf Creek? The reported 6.8% grade sounds tough, but not excessive. Is that a misconception? Pat
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Wolf Creek pass is a very good road on the west side, double lanes so you can climb at whatever speed you're comfortable at, trucks go slow. There is never heavy ski traffic. Just check CDOT for conditions if there is weather in the area. The east side is two and single lane to South Fork. Just downshift to save your brakes and take it slow and easy. It's one of the best passes in CO to traverse as long as the weather is good.
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:01 PM   #7
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planning our trip home leaving Arizona and wondered about using 160 across Colorado. Weather of course would be one determining factor, also any input from others that have traveled this route pulling.
Also wanted to stop at Mesa Verde National Park.
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We live here and, as others have confirmed, it is ALL about the weather on those passes. Highway 160 is a great road but Spring in Colorado is full of unpredictable surprises. While I can't be absolutely sure from your profile photo, it looks like you have the 6.7 diesel and, if so, should have the "tow/haul" mode with some automatic exhaust braking via downshift available. I find it is usually sufficient to keep my braking to a minimum on the downgrades. Regardless, Mesa Verde is a "must see" if you are in the SW Colorado area. Enjoy our State and safe travels.
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The are web cameras on the top of Wolf Creek pass. They will give you an idea of the weather and road conditions.
Mesa Verde RV park is just a mile from the entrance.
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-- snip -- Mesa Verde is a "must see" if you are in the SW Colorado area. Enjoy our State and safe travels.
Just an FYI - Mesa Verde does not allow trailers past the Morefield camping area, which is a few miles into the park. Plan to drop the trailer for the remainder of your drive into the park. Enjoy your trip to the park. Pat
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Just an FYI - Mesa Verde does not allow trailers past the Morefield camping area, which is a few miles into the park. Plan to drop the trailer for the remainder of your drive into the park. Enjoy your trip to the park. Pat
Good catch Pat and the FYI is for good reason. Here's a map of the roads:

http://www.nps.gov/meve/planyourvisi...p2015_8x11.pdf


The last time I was there was on my motorcycle and didn't seem to have any problem getting around inside the park.
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Those motorcycle thingys do have a rather nice turning circle, if you don't fall over in the process. That's the problem I have with bicycles, so I gave them up. Pat
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We just made that drive a couple of weekends ago. We were at Zion National Park rooting our daughter on for the 1/2 Marathon and wanted to come back through 4-corners. We opted to not risk taking the AS this trip due to both unpredictable weather (Springtime in the Rockies) and having to re-winterize when we got home. We have not made that drive in years and I have to say it was a very nice drive, plenty of passing lanes on the passes and hills. We will make the same trip again but take more time to see the rest of Zion, Bryce Canyon, Monument Valley, and Mesa Verde - and take the AS.
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Hello RBS
I live in Cortez and today is a windy day here.
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There is an easy alternative to Wolf Creek Pass that takes you over Cumbres Pass "6.3 % grade and 10,022 ft elevation verses Wolf Creeks 6.8 % grade and 10,857 ft elevation . The drawback is it's about 35 miles further to Alamosa going that way , but it is a lower pass with milder grades , and it usually gets less snow fall than Wolf Creek does . Just turn right on Highway 84 in Pagosa Springs to Highway 17 in Chama , to Antonito , then left on 285 to Alamosa.
17 is a good , well maintained road that gets extra attention from the states of New Mexico and Colorado as it serves as the bus route for the Cumbres and Toltec Railroad that is owned by both states .
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