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Old 06-22-2011, 03:06 PM   #1
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Road Trips 2011

We had planned on staying close to home this year because we have our house on the market and didn't want to be too far away. The real estate market is awful and because of constantly falling prices, people don't want to buy because they figure it will be cheaper later. It is hard to get out of a deflationary spiral. We are unsure what to do.

We have traveled to Ouray, Colorado, for 3 nights, to celebrate 25 years together, and we were lazy, ate a lot, soaked in a hot spring, and had a great time. We stayed at a KOA about 5 miles north of Ouray (and 90 miles from home) and it was a nice CG and pretty empty just before the Memorial Day weekend.

Before that was summerizing and installing a venetian blind in the center rear window. See: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...a-64080-3.html starting with post # 241. In the last 3 or 4 days, we have junked our dealer-installed (badly installed) solar system and replaced it with twice plus as many watts. Lewster did a house call and installed the system. See post 161: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f448...t-62608-2.html

He also put more sealant on the roof saving me from having to climb up there and then be absolutely sure I will slide off those curves on all sides and crash to the ground. Lew suggested I put Velcro on the roof and on my shoes, but I am unsure that would work since my mind, not reality, is the problem. Yesterday we repacked the bearings and installed new self-adjusting brakes on the rear axle. We went at least 18,000 miles since the last repacking without any problems. One outer bearing needs replacing soon since the cage is not perfect, but is not crucial. The front axle already has self adjusting brakes. You can buy the brake plate with all the parts on it pretty cheaply. Replacing the brake plate is very easy—unbolt the old plate (5 bolts I think; it was yesterday and memory is degrading), cut the wires, bolt on the new plate, attach the wires. The new brakes were adjusted properly out of the box All the shoes and magnets looked good—the rear axle had 36,000 miles on the brakes. Many miles have been on long travels on good highways and so we don't use the brakes as much as others might.

The subwoofer is attached to the floor by 2 cheap plastic hold downs. They have broken. I have metal ones ready. The belly pan has a seam across the rear approximately where the stairs are. About 4 rivets have worked through the metal. I have to check the other parts of the pan for that problem. We looked for large head rivets at a hardware store, but they didn't have any, so some self tapping screws and large washers will solve it. It is a good idea to check for this problem since I doubt we have the only trailer where the rivets have worn through the sheet metal. Maintenance is forever.

We are thinking about a trip to the Northwest in September since nothing is happening with the house—we had 2 showings a couple of months ago. One said it was too big, one said it was too small. Where is mama bear? Not traveling is hard for us. If someone wants the house, we can be contacted most of the time by e-mail or phone. We go to Cortez next week for 3 nights to see Canyons of the Ancients NM, and, in July we go to Denver for a wedding and see some friends, to Pueblo to see in-laws, and maybe one night near Leadville for us. We'll probably go to Grand Mesa NF in August for several days with some friends. Maybe Santa Fe in October. We must drive!

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Old 06-22-2011, 03:19 PM   #2
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I hope that someone comes along and wants the house. In the meantime its good to see that you have some smaller trips planned.

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Old 06-22-2011, 03:35 PM   #3
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Glad to see you start the Road Trips 2011 thread, Gene. It's always fascinating to read about your adventures.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:41 PM   #4
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Gene, congratulations on your 25 years of togetherness!

We sold our RV & our boat to buy Ellie Mae (1999 25' Safari) this past weekend, so if luxury items are are being traded and sold, perhaps there's hope for your house.

We're itching to get on the road ... we aren't straying too far from home either, a weekend at Chafield State Park (15 miles from home), a weekend in Big Thompson Canyon, another weekend in Pueblo at the KOA for the State Fair and then our 'big' vacation is the Balloon Fiesta with 4CU unit in the fall.

But before we do that, during a thorough cleaning of our AS we found some minor issues that need to be fixed ... the bathroom wall shifted about a 1/2 inch into the hallway, the galley venting fan has dropped the cabinet a fair amount and needs 'fastening', and an overhead cabinet in the bedroom has something funky going on with the moulding. Minor, minor stuff to what I am reading on the forums.

Gas prices creeping upward, mean more stay-cations, and I think there's plenty to see in Colorful Colorado - just when we think we've done it all - we find somewhere else we haven't explored and for a tank of gas and a few bucks for a site ... Perhaps we'll bump into you on our trails ... Wendy
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Just think about how much easier it is to keep the house in "show-ready" tidy perfection when you're elsewhere in the Airstream! My last 2 sales have been made after I was already living somewhere else, though the first of those was when I was only 90 miles away (Austin to San Antonio.) Unless you're trying the FSBO thing, all you have to be able to do is receive an emailed document and send a fax from Kinko's somewhere to get the contract going.

I never saw the buyer of my house in San Antonio, nor was I ever in the same room with the seller of this house in Fort Worth. Go and travel for those of us who don't yet have the freedom to do so! Hopefully you'll be someplace beautiful when you receive news that there's a good offer for your house.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:13 PM   #6
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A Little OT - Large Flange Rivets

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The belly pan has a seam across the rear approximately where the stairs are. About 4 rivets have worked through the metal. I have to check the other parts of the pan for that problem. We looked for large head rivets at a hardware store, but they didn't have any, so some self tapping screws and large washers will solve it.
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Gene. et. al. I was able to find the large flange rivets at a company called Fastenal. You can buy one or a million. They are a fastener distributor and should have offices all over the place.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:37 PM   #7
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Howard, thanks for the info. I would have used the large head rivets when Lew was here because he has a rivet gun in which they would fit. Mine wouldn't work and I don't want to buy another one. Since no one (unless they are so drunk they are lying under the trailer) can see them, screws and washers will work fine.

I think it would make sense for the belly pans to be attached by Airstream with screws anyway. It makes it easier to remove them. Of course, at the factory they might use screws that were too short to save money, and then either leave them loose or overtighten—either way they would fall out. And they wouldn't use washers either, again, to save money. If you think I am being too critical of factory workmanship, read the next paragraph…

Another thing happened when we were jacking up the trailer. There are supposed to be metal diamonds riveted to the frame that tell you where to jack it. The one on the curbside rear wasn't there until I told them at JC and they put it on. The one on the streetside was affixed at the factory and was partly off the frame beam. As a result, when we had the trailer jacked up halfway—and we put a block of wood between the jack and the frame for stability—the trailer fell down because the diamond was only partly affixed to the frame. It bent the sheet metal on the pan a little and the diamond fell off, but no other damage. So, the factory guy who had the job of riveting the diamonds forgot one and misplaced the other. The rivet on the diamond broke off—there was only one. As a safety measure, after we jacked up the trailer, we put a jack stand, also with a block of wood on it, near the jack in case the jack fails, the trailer will come down on the jack stand. Of course, we have top wait for that until we have jacked it up far enough.

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We are thinking about a trip to the Northwest in September since nothing is happening with the house—we had 2 showings a couple of months ago. One said it was too big, one said it was too small.
Here the real estate market is very active with all properties that are listed, selling within weeks if they are in better condition, and priced lower than the competition. If property isn't selling, I'd check the condition. If the condition is great, I'd check the price. If both are good, I'd fire the agent today.

Always offer a warranty like AHS. If the market is tight, you might have to do a 3-2-1 buydown. If your agent can't tell you what that is, I'd fire the agent today.

Any agent can do a regional, price / market analysis. That will be a reality check. If you only had a couple showings a couple months ago, there's something BIG wrong, either with the location, the condition, the price, or the agent. I'd guess it's a combination. You can't change the location, but all of the other factors can be changed, and when the problem factor(s) are changed, the property will sell.
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Split, we live in a remote area off the beaten path. Higher end properties sell slowly here and a year+ on the market is normal. I have done price analysis, rewritten the listings, sent him my photos since they were better than the realtors, and have made many suggestions. We feel we are doing a lot for the realtor. Houses below $200,000 sell, but our house is a log home with land, outbuildings, shop, new kitchen, much remodeling, etc. We also have a adjoining lot. We have reduced prices several times on both properties. The market is falling fast in a lot of places and if we could load our house on a trailer and move it to Sioux Falls, that might make sense. The number of properties is small, especially high end ones, and it is part luck when someone comes to this county looking for a nice house with views and quiet. The listing contract is up on Oct. 1 (if you want a wonderful house here, contact me on Oct. 2, not before, because of listing contract issues). We may go on our own at that point and we will be investigating that process soon. What we would save on commission would pay for some ads and we could be more competitive.

We try to keep the house clean, but the chickens in the living room do cause some problems. But it does mean the freshest eggs. The cow in the dining room means fresh milk. The outhouse seems to turn off some of those city folks, but we tell them the spiders won't bite.

Actually we try to make everything warm and pleasing while still being able to live in it. The problem is that people don't know about the area and don't look for it. There is a loghomes website we have suggested to the realtor, and he has said he would list on it, but so far hasn't. This has not endeared him to us. He found this place for us, and we have known him for quite a while, but he is not an aggressive marketer. When things aren't selling, you have to be aggressive.

We are trying to be calm about this and enjoy life.

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gene,
just a suggestion that worked for us. ditch the realsnake company and sell it yourself.
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So, is Ouray a neat place to visit?
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Why don't you come north and visit?
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Good idea:-)

I've never seen a market that I couldn't sell a property. I have seen markets where I couldn't get top dollar for clients. Specialty items are hard to get a return of cost. For example a swimming pool. They cost $40,000 for a simple one and many people see them as a liability. Many buyers deduct for a swimming pool.

One client paid $200,000 in construction costs for an attached indoor, air conditioned, sport court. We couldn't get much of that out of it.

A time / market analysis is different that a comparative market (price) analysis. A time / market analysis doesn't respect price.

Where I see agents fall down is trying to sell an unusual property using usual methods. Some sellers just can't afford to sell. In fact I see more sellers that can't afford to sell than I see buyers who can't afford to buy. I lose money on a property when I buy it, and I realize the loss when I sell. Some houses here that would have sold for $450k in 2007, are selling for $320k now. I just saw a house that would have sold for $120k sell for $90k.

My neighbor's house sold in days last fall. In 2007 it would have sold for somewhere near $600k. It sold for $425k.

It's not hard to end a listing agreement. A one page addendum to the listing agreement signed by a responsible signer is all it takes. If the agent won't cancel the residual clause, to break the residual clause usually only takes a one week listing and one open house with another agent without the residual clause in the second listing agreement.

I suspect you have a location challenge, a price challenge, and an agent challenge.
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Gene:
I'm happy to see Road Trips 2011 is on albeit short trips. I wish you good luck with your house. I really enjoyed your trip to Alaska last year...so much so that I went to the Auto Club and got maps of Alaska and Western Canada to follow you daily.

Regarding your diamond jack points...the same thing happened to me. The left rear one was off...and yes, I bent the sheet metal under the trailer.

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