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Old 03-12-2011, 07:19 PM   #239
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I vote for Eastlake. Sturdy looking.

And cork flooring. With Osmo polyx oil.

Thanks for the pics.
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Old 03-13-2011, 11:17 AM   #240
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I vote for Eastlake. Sturdy looking.

And cork flooring. With Osmo polyx oil.
The road from Eastlake to Japonisme to Art Nouveau to Arts and Crafts, Stickley and Mission and eventually Art Deco and Machine Age is kind of confusing, but each seemed to influence the next ones. I bought these chairs and a dining room table (definitely Eastlake) in 1970 from a woman from a (probably formerly) rich Buffalo, NY, family. The chairs started to fall apart in the 1980's and '90's and I've stored them until recently. The table I completely restored in 2001. The chairs have screws and that makes me and an antique dealer/friend think it's closer to 1900. The table I think is from the 1870's and is ash.

The chairs are beautiful, but not all that comfortable. We are debating buying new chairs that are Mission/Arts and Crafts styling. We are getting rid of the chairs we have used for years while the chairs I am restoring took some time off. The chairs we have been using have gotten sad and are now in a resale store. Finding something that matches the table is difficult as that style (whatever it was) doesn't seem to be made by reproduction manufacturers. We went through catalogs last week and picked out the most expensive chairs of all (a bad habit we both suffer from) but they were nice. I managed to get discounts, but the price for 6 is very high. We could buy 4 and supplement with the restored chairs and hopefully that would all blend. As you can tell, we have been debating this for weeks.

We have been buying one really nice piece of furniture a year for a while now, so this year is chairs I guess (group of chairs = one piece). When I lived in the east I could fine bargains on antiques, but I'm long gone from there. We also used to be able to find some furniture in unpainted furniture stores, but I think they are all out of business now. Barb wants me to get a new dresser to fill out a bedroom set we have bought one piece at a time, but I'm using an oak one that was once considered "cottage furniture" around 1900. I found it in an antique store in Denver about 20 years ago and refinished it. It doesn't really fit with the reproduction Mission style stuff we have bought in the last 5 years.

As for the floor, cork is the lightest alternative, but I really don't want to do anything like that until we move and get settled in. I did figure out the bathroom faucet—it went together like none other. The part between the actual lever that turns and the base is what screws it all together. The way it came apart indicates to me it wasn't installed right, but I'm unsure.

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Old 03-18-2011, 03:02 PM   #241
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The installation of the Venetian blinds was pretty straight forward. I am not the first to do this. Barb and I saw it in eheffa's (Evan and Jane) trailer last year when they came down to canyon country and we visited with them. He was helpful with some instructions too. I think he found out about it from another thread, but I don't know where that thread is.

Having the blinds means we can have more light in the trailer, or more air when the window is open, without having curtains all the way open or closed.

The first photo shows the curtains can either extend to the edge of the blinds and be separated from the ones in the corner, or they can be kept together. It is possible to close the curtains over the blinds, but it's a little tight. The 2nd photo shows more detail.

We found the right color at Home Depot. They are Levolor and it may have been "brushed aluminum." They look just like the OEM blinds, except the brackets that hold them are metal, not plastic. They come with a valence, but you can't install it in this space and expect to close the curtains.

The blinds have to fit between the levers for the window. The plastic hold downs at the bottom which keep the blinds from moving back and forth when towing have to be installed on the screen frame. I ordered the blinds to be 47 3/4" to make sure they would have enough clearance between the window levers, but this made the bottom rail narrow enough so that it was difficult to install the hold downs. If I were to do it again, I would make the width 48". It would just fit between the levers and the hold downs would be easier to screw into the screen frame.

Getting the brackets which hold the top rail perfectly centered requires measuring very carefully—there's not much clearance. You have to unscrew the curtain rail (the thing that the curtains slide back and forth on) because there's not enough space between that rail and the screen frame to install the blinds' top rail. I also had to shim out the blind's brackets with some 3/8" pieces so that they would be flush with the bottom of the curtain rail. I unscrewed all the supports for the curtain rail except two that come just before the ends of the rail. Leaving 2 attached meant the rail would not fall down, but could be easily adjusted outward to fit in between the brackets and the top blinds rail. The ends of the curtain rail moved outward, but not so much to be a problem.

The brackets screw into the overhead cabinets and there seems to be a brace inside the cabinet that accepts 2" screws. You can't see what you are screwing into because the back of cabinet hides a void between the trailer interior wall and the cabinet back wall. It's important, therefore, when drilling a pilot hole not to get too aggressive and drill through the trailer interior wall (I suppose with a long enough bit you could drill outside, but I don't think there's a bit long enough for that).

I did not use any of the screws that came with the blinds. The ones for the brackets were too short, so I used 2" wood screws. The cabinet is made of fiberboard, so I wanted to get well into the brace inside and it should be solid wood. The screws for the hold downs are cheap and the heads broke off on 2 of them. I drilled the pilot holes in the screen frame too small to make sure the hold downs would be tightly installed. I ended up drilling new pilot holes next to the screws with the broken off heads and using better screws (ones for attaching metal ducts to each other). The hold downs hid the broken off screws.

This all took several hours. The hardest parts were measuring for the bracket to make sure the blinds were centered between the window levers and installing the hold downs. Between broken screws and broken drill bits (just one of those days), getting the hold downs in was very frustrating, but it got done and looks fine.

Photos follow.

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Old 03-18-2011, 04:24 PM   #242
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I think you and your wife should take a break from house-selling and trailer-fixin'-up and come to the Moraine View Rally here in central Illinois the second week in June.

Going to be a good crowd of folks, and plenty of good food.


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That looks great Gene. Thanks for posting your results.

We did it slightly differently in that the blind was mounted directly to the the under cabinet surface but to the same effect. It's great having the venetians both front & back. I added a few Velcro strips on either side to allow the drapes to be tacked down for privacy.

OT: We're currently enjoying a sunny break from the almost incessant monsoons in Tofino. We've been camping for the last week here. Thankfully no leaks, (despite the torture test of horrific downpours). The shower valve packed it in - another Moen success story; but it's great to be out in the trailer again.

Greetings from the Bella Pacifica Campground in sunny Tofino.

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Evan,

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I did mount it on the underside of the cabinet.

I am jealous—camping already on tropical Vancouver Is. at Tofino. It snowed 4" last night here, but it all melted by late morning.

Maggie,

I'm sure the rally would be a good time, but we have to sell the house this year before prices start to go up. If we don't, and prices are rising, we may get stuck in the "sell low, buy high" situation. This is the year of being serious (aside from serious traveling which I am already missing).

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Evan,

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I did mount it on the underside of the cabinet.

I am jealous—camping already on tropical Vancouver Is. at Tofino. It snowed 4" last night here, but it all melted by late morning.

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Hi. Yes camping already; but, like I said it has been remarkably wet. We've enjoyed our break from the usual routines though.

I see from your pics that you used a small shim or piece of wood to bring the blind bracket down slightly off the cupboard. That probably eased the cramped nature of mounting the bracket & having to redirect the curtain rail back away from the window. When I did mine, the resultant slightly shallower curve meant the ends of the track need to be trimmed & shortened. Either way seems to work. I will see if I can post a picture for you.

Cheers & Hi to Barb! Hopefully no more snow & the great campgrounds can lure you back out for a few short trips.

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Old 03-18-2011, 07:21 PM   #246
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The overall look when we're not in the unit....much too neat & tidy.



Here's a closeup of our installation: (Pretty similar to yours Gene but no Shim...)



And here's a little piece of the view as I write this: (Lots of Surfers out earlier...)



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Maggie,

I'm sure the rally would be a good time, but we have to sell the house this year before prices start to go up. If we don't, and prices are rising, we may get stuck in the "sell low, buy high" situation. This is the year of being serious (aside from serious traveling which I am already missing).

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I really do understand this, and wouldn't want you to miss a sell on account of a mere rally. Got to have your priorities firmly in hand.

Just thinkin', though, you can keep it in mind should you get a great price early on. And, there's always another year.

Good luck, will send positive house-selling karma your way.


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Evan, the shims kept the curtain rail from moving while I screwed things together. The tension of the rail pushing back toward the window kept the shims from falling down before the brackets were attached.

Yes, the trailer looks like it's in a showroom. Of course, we know Canadians are the neatest people on earth.

The photo of the Pacific Ocean makes me even more anxious to travel.

Maggie, we will probably take some short trips close to home for a few days at a time while we wait for that wise buyer who has found the perfect home (ours!). With the ability to communicate from almost anywhere and electronically send real estate contracts, we could travel, but the anxiety levels keep getting higher. It's now normal for houses to be on then market for 300 days or more, and we are getting close to that. No one really understands what's going on and the lack of any certainty makes me crazy. All data on real estate contradicts some other data. Someone was very interested in the adjoining lot we also own, but haven't heard from her in 3 weeks. Meanwhile we keep packing things that are not needed (yeh, there's a reference book buried in some box stacked in a closet waiting to move that I'll just have to forget about, but would have answered a question a couple of days ago), throwing away (many year collection of paint cans that local dump won't accept unless dried out with cat litter and/or shredded paper—what a pain), selling stuff. We have too much stuff!

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Evan, the shims kept the curtain rail from moving while I screwed things together. The tension of the rail pushing back toward the window kept the shims from falling down before the brackets were attached.

Yes, the trailer looks like it's in a showroom. Of course, we know Canadians are the neatest people on earth.

The photo of the Pacific Ocean makes me even more anxious to travel.
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Sorry Gene,

The "showroom" shot is from several years ago taken just after the blinds were installed. I only included it to show the overall effect in case anyone wondered how it looked. (The unit most definitely does not look like that right now as I type . I would include a more realistic image to balance the unrealistic one but I would be over-ruled by my camp-mate...)

As far as Canadians & neatness goes; you must be thinking of the other coast. The Newfoundlanders are impressively neat but here in BC?...I don't think we would warrant too many neatness awards.

Here's hoping you can resolve your selling / moving issues soon. I wish you could be planning & looking forward to your next trip instead of cleaning out the basement. (I dread the thought when it's our turn.)

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Both are neat installs Having recently purchased a new Flying Cloud we have wondered why these were not installed at the factory...it seems like they cut corners...
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Having recently purchased a new Flying Cloud we have wondered why these were not installed at the factory...it seems like they cut corners...
They sure do cut corners. A fair amount of our repairs and enhancements are because of corner cutting.

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They sure do cut corners. A fair amount of our repairs and enhancements are because of corner cutting.

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Yes Gene, but you have to admit, the corners DO look nice!
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