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Old 08-06-2013, 08:37 AM   #1
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Rest Area stays

I'm just wondering here.....I've seen signs at several rest areas stating "no camping" leaving one to wonder if there's a distinction between all-out, roll out the awning, set up the grill, put the carpet down-"camping" and just merely parking for the night?

Is there an unimplied difference?
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I'm just wondering here.....I've seen signs at several rest areas stating "no camping" leaving one to wonder if there's a distinction between all-out, roll out the awning, set up the grill, put the carpet down-"camping" and just merely parking for the night?

Is there an unimplied difference?
A lot of them don't allow overnight parking anymore, either.
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Old 08-06-2013, 09:46 AM   #3
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I have spent 100's of nights in rest areas over the last 40 years both while traveling on my own and during ten years of RV delivery.
I have never had a problem and never been asked to leave regardless of the signs.
I personally believe the posting of these signs gives law enforcement a tool if they have a problem with some one.
I wouldn't get out the Patio chairs and the barbecue, but it highly unlikely that you will be bothered while getting 8 hours sleep.
I have even parked in the car area at times , backing into an out of the way corner and never been questioned.
As always, trust your instincts and if something doesn't feel right, don't stay there.
If you have ever turned on your CB radio in some of the major truck stops, there is a lot more questionable activity there.
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I have used rest areas over the years without any problems. In fact one told me to park close to the building because i was going to have to leave the trailer there the next day to take the TV for repairs.

Now that said I use Wal-Mart and or Chraker Barrel more often now days.

If you are a member of one or more of the Fraternal Orders they almost all offer members over night parking and often have 2 point hook ups.
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I've said this on other threads, but…

There is one significant source of overnight parking areas that often goes unnoticed— churches. One of my coworkers used to swear by them (there HAS to be a better way to say that!) whether evacuating for a hurricane in his RV, or just traveling. Uusually quiet, usually in decent neighborhoods, and highly unlikely to turn you away if you ask permission to stay.
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Here's a link to the latest state laws on rvsafety.com

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If you scroll to the bottom of the page in the link, you'll see ©2005-2006.

Anybody got something more recent?
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I'm much more comfortable at a wal-mart or sam's than a interstate rest stop. There are usually other rv'ers around at retail places.
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Trailer width?

I looked through the list from 2011 Driving Laws for the US and Canada and found that in New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York and District of Columbia all have a maximum width of 96" for trailers. Does this mean that my AS Classic Wide Body cannot be legally towed in these states?

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I looked through the list from 2011 Driving Laws for the US and Canada and found that in New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York and District of Columbia all have a maximum width of 96" for trailers. Does this mean that my AS Classic Wide Body cannot be legally towed in these states?

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Restrictions on trailer width mainly apply to trailers registered there. If your trailer is legal where it's registered, you can tow it anywhere, but see below for a special case. So don't register it in New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, or DC and you'll normally be fine.

BUT, also look up the oversize restrictions for those states if you're passing through. You're definitely safe on US highways and Interstates; the Federal limit is 102 inches. But on State, County, etc. roads, you may be oversize. Not necessarily enough to require an oversize permit, but you may face oversize restrictions such as "daylight hours only."

It probably won't make a difference until and unless you get in an accident. Then, if you're considered oversize and violating their oversize regulations, you may be considered at fault even if it was clearly the other guy in the wrong.
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The cynic in me says that campgrounds push to get laws like "no overnight stays in rest areas, Wal-Marts, etc." passed so that you are forced to spend money at campgrounds (or hotels for cars). I suspect there's also a capacity question - if everyone is sleeping overnight and not actively using the facilities, and there are no spots for people who are trying to use the facilities, that's kind of a problem. And, there may be a potential safety issue - if many people use rest areas for overnight stops, it's probably only a matter of time before criminals start showing up to rob them.

As someone else said here a while back, I seriously doubt you'd be chased from a rest area for an overnight stay unless you were causing a problem. I've never done it, but we were prepared to do it on our trip to Florida during the winter, in case we ran into bad weather and couldn't find a campground that was open to stop at (we made it without problem).
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[QUOTE=Protagonist;1336779]Restrictions on trailer width mainly apply to trailers registered there. If your trailer is legal where it's registered, you can tow it anywhere, but see below for a special case. So don't register it in New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, or DC and you'll normally be fine.

BUT, also look up the oversize restrictions for those states if you're passing through. You're definitely safe on US highways and Interstates; the Federal limit is 102 inches. But on State, County, etc. roads, you may be oversize. Not necessarily enough to require an oversize permit, but you may face oversize restrictions such as "daylight hours only."

It probably won't make a difference until and unless you get in an accident. Then, if you're considered oversize and violating their oversize regulations, you may be considered at fault even if it was clearly the other guy in the wrong.[/QUOTE The 96" limit applies to all trailers whether registered there or not. New hampshire is 96"only, new jersey. new york, allow 102" on federal roads and access roads but not the back roads. District of Columbia is also only 96". You might be able to permit and go other places in these states.
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But on State, County, etc. roads, you may be oversize. Not necessarily enough to require an oversize permit, but you may face oversize restrictions such as "daylight hours only."

It probably won't make a difference until and unless you get in an accident. Then, if you're considered oversize and violating their oversize regulations, you may be considered at fault even if it was clearly the other guy in the wrong.
The 96" limit applies to all trailers whether registered there or not. New hampshire is 96"only, new jersey. new york, allow 102" on federal roads and access roads but not the back roads. District of Columbia is also only 96". You might be able to permit and go other places in these states.
Thank you. I misspoke (mis-typed?) I should have said, you may not need an oversized "placard"; you'd still need an oversized "permit."
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