View Poll Results: Would you use a pay by the hour RV parking service with electricity?
Yes, I would use such a service 18 18.37%
I think boondocking is a right and I will never pay to park overnight 7 7.14%
I would try this service if it is not expensive 43 43.88%
Yes, would use this service if less than overnight fee at a local campground 30 30.61%
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Old 06-19-2015, 12:35 PM   #71
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Love to see the business model.

Figure $10 per day charge, That's a possible $3,650 income per year. 80% occupancy makes it about $3,000 per site. Electric bill = $600 a year. Installation, Maintenance, insurance, business costs = $400 per year. Profit Split 50/50 with landowner gives you about $1,000 profit per site per year. Say you manage Ohio with 60 spots in 20 locations on I80-90, I 71, and I75. That will earn you enough to live on!

BUT, we have winter 8 months a year so eliminate 70 percent
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:28 PM   #72
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Slightly off topic.

Yes in the future there may be a need for charging stations for electric cars but at this point Tesla has addressed that need and made the technology available free to others. Currently the charging time for an electric car using a charging station for a Tesla is measured in minutes not hours let along overnight and is free. I don't think the commercial developers will go after that segment of the market for a while.

While I think the major oil companies will allow electric stations for RV on their properties I doubt very much they are ready to support electric cars in any way shape or form.
I don't think any other-brand electric cars are yet capable of using a Tesla Supercharger station. They mentioned a year or so ago that they're in talks with other EV manufacturers on the topic, and the other EV manufacturers would have to kick in capital investment "proportional to their fleet's use of the network" but I don't think anything's on the market yet that can use a Supercharger besides Tesla-branded cars. Tesla uses a different charge connector than other brands, and requires adapters to use the standardized other-brand charge connectors. It's also an optional upgrade (at least on some models) to use the Supercharger technology.
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Old 06-19-2015, 02:54 PM   #73
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Most of the comments posted apply to us as well so my poll answer really needs clarification to be meaningful. I believe location would be a major factor in the consideration and our use yearly might only be 3-6 times.

We are "plan" travelers, even though the plan may be only 24 hours ahead when wandering which we do three to four times a year. "Where next?" only applies to a few trips a year as destinations and activities are usually figured a month or more in advance with parks or other short stopover locations pre-pegged for local attractions/amenities. Our "stop & go" frequency is close to nil which this concept caters to as an offering.

Our use of short-term overnight spots is limited to long haul trips where covering distance is the game and "stop & go" becomes the behavior. I think being alongside interstates in the central plains would be the most desirable spots: during the summer months it is hot enough to need overnight air and sightseeing is not on the agenda as we 'make miles.'

We use FJ as our preferred RV/truck-stop chain and this service would enhance that relationship. If offered by a competitor, we would likely expand our preference.
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Maybe I should have clarified that we do a mix of more local/regional and long-distance trips. Like British Columbia to Death Valley. We prefer not to amble along, either, when we drive from point A to point B: no quaint roadside diners for us, as we mostly pack our own, mostly vegan food. We like to put in an 8- or 9 hour day on a long distance trip.

It's just that, well, we don't actually like truck stops, Walmart parking lots, &c. We respect people who do, but I suspect a lot of RVers feel like us and wouldn't use the proposed service, because we don't typically stay overnight in the kinds of places the OPer seems to be thinking about. If we did, most times we could do it without an electrical hookup.

I just thought he deserved a different perspective.

Maggie, are you on the road these days with your Interstate?
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Maggie, are you on the road these days with your Interstate?

I am.

It was hard to begin alone last year, but I did.

There are places I want to be, people I want to see, and I'm not ready to just be at home.

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I keep falling back to the investment side of this business. The success will be heavily contingent on the "need at and convenience of location, safety and seasonal revenue/volume. The market will decide the price based on what the market will bare for each specific area, peak or low season, spaces in the area and competitors pricing; somewhat like the hotel/motel business, gas prices, food etc. It will have nothing to do with "fairness" like someone has previously suggested. If we need the electric and safety for an over night stop do we really just keep driving to save a buck to only find out there are no spaces available down the (gravel) road to then come to the realization that the nearest noisy truck stop may be just the cheap ticket we were looking for.

We enjoy and are willing to pay extra for quality and comfort and those are just a couple of reasons to invest in an Airstream. Come on America, share the wealth! Convenience and safety will drive this, not low prices.

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Good for you, Maggie!

Many happy trails to you.
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If legislation barring diesels idling all night comes into effect this would be a good business model to allow truckers as well as RVs to enjoy creature comforts that require electricity. It would make truck stops more attractive as overnight stays as well due to less noise and stink.
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That legislation has been in effect for years.

Truck stops have offered remote systems to overcome the need to idle at a cost. Trucks now carry onboard systems diesel that can run while parked to provide AC and heat.

This is just an extension of what is already out there.
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Truck idling reduction vs this topic

Some posters have brought anti-idling legislation into this topic. Others have opined about re charging electric cars.

All of these thoughtful comments have taken this topic a step further than the original intent.

To me, it can be summarized as: "If electricity is readily available at Truck Stops, what can we do with it?"

To my knowledge, most Class 8 trucks can't do much with a source of 120 VAC. ShorePower, Inc. suggests the trucker run an extension cord through the door to power his notebook computer. And that company has spent $25 to $45 million installing a few power pedestals. A Class 8 truck needs to be wired like an RV and have electric Air Conditioning in order to shut off that engine in the summer. In the winter, a small portable heater could be run with a cord through the door.

How to repower electric only cars is a totally different subject, except it involves some voltage of alternating current with a lot of amps. How about 480 VAC at 1000 amps? I don't know and neither does anyone else. Telsa is not even trying to get agreement on a universal charging station & standardize the voltage & current. Tesla provides free or at least no charge electricity at its propriety charging stations, presently. Only a Tesla can hook up. So, I've already written more about this off topic point than I wanted.

Howie, you are correct to point out that some Class 8 trucks have on board diesel APUs for heating and cooling. I don't know much about those, but the Air Conditioning may not be electric. I seem to remember that belt driven compressors hooked to the dash air and an alternator to keep the truck's batteries topped off are with those packages. Still burning diesel, but less fuel used than running the main engine.

I've talked with some of my RV buddies. One said he has been hit twice by trucks in Truck Stops. He strongly says RVs should be separate from the trucks. A truck can easily damage an RV, but an RV can hardly put a scratch on a truck.

This concept is merely for a provider to make available a safe, level parking area for RVs, with 20/30/50 amp 120 VAC RV style electric receptacles and possibly Wi Fi available. Trucks should be excluded from this area.

It remains to be seen whether Truck Stops will be willing to cut back truck parking slots in order to free up RV only parking slots. In my opinion, if the level site is available, the electricity is available, but the parking area is not separate from the trucks...not good.

Thanks to everyone who has read this topic, to those who voted in the poll, and to those who posted comments.

Best regards,

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