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Old 06-09-2015, 01:28 PM   #15
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Wind has its effect.

Towing westward out of W. OK on I-40, we ran into 60 mph wind directly out of the west. My full tank went down to 1/2 in about 40 minutes, & after 80 miles...I needed GAS !
Stopped & filled up again. No leaks in the fuel system. I got 3.8 mpg on that tank instead of the usual 9 to 9.5 mpg.

The Coach House & trailer were seeing 120 MPH winds ! 60 mph over the ground + 60 mph natural wind.

Experience: you pay the price, then you get the lesson.

What I learned: consider the wind, its direction & speed.

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Old 06-09-2015, 01:33 PM   #16
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I'm headed on a more Northern route to the west coast. I'm gonna add an extra gas can to my list of must haves.

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Old 06-09-2015, 01:41 PM   #17
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Well, this is one problem I've never had.....I carry a total of 140 usable gallons of diesel in my 2003 Dodge/Cummins. Yes it's a total fuel load of 840 pounds, yes it may be overkill, I don't have to worry about running out.
On the plus side, it gives one the opportunity to shop for the best prices on fuel...

For whatever it's worth..

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Old 06-09-2015, 02:38 PM   #18
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Dido Larry C -
After the first trip with my trailer I installed a 90 gallon tank from Northern Tool in the back of my Pickup - only takes up 13" of space - gives me 125 gallons or about 1,800 miles.
All stress about running low is removed.
I start looking for the best price and easy pull through when my gauge starts to move (550 miles left).
Makes all the difference - relaxed mind.

P.S.: Wife taught school in Wyoming - to say that there was wind is like saying there was dirt! When I first went there I took my cowboy hat - no one wear's them in Wyoming - you'll spend all your time chasing them - only baseball caps!
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:09 PM   #19
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Refuel daily, concurrent with the four hour driving rest break. A good rule.

As to lonely roads there is no such thing as too much fuel.

Should be easy enough to figure out with any sort of trip planning where good stations are located. Both before AND after that road or roads.

I note that in the above no one has mentioned their towing average mpg. This is central to reasonable decision-making.

And that only 80% of fuel tank capacity should be used.

My Dodge standard tank is 35-Gls. 80% is then 28-gls. Towing average has been 14-16/mpg. Using the lower figure, the reasonable distance with a reserve of seven gallons is 392-miles.

That's a reasonable maximum. But to be cautious, 300-miles between fill ups where fuel is more difficult to obtain is the MORE reasonable maximum.

This is how I've done it in big trucks on and off the past two decades. Where the consequences are greater.

As I'd rather have a 500-mile range (living in hurricane country) for normal travel, and 3-5/mpg towing in an evacuation a 56-gl replacement tank bumps me to 45/gls with 11/gl reserve (as fuel pumps may start to starve below a given percentage, not gallon capacity remaining) and about 150-miles in said evacuation. Or, well over 500-miles for a safe range in towing.

Learn the limits of the rig.
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Old 06-09-2015, 05:43 PM   #20
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Traveling in Baja California taught me to always drive on the TOP half of the tank, whether using gasoline or diesel -----You never know if fuel is available where you expect it to be, or what obstacles might be just ahead around the next corner.
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Now, that could have been the story line for a John Candy movie. Thanks for sharing. I hope you've kept that one for the family history lessons.
Yes, I know "the story" was a bit off from Airstream towing but reading Ray's post I related to the frustration and disgust of running out of gas nowhere. I imagined pulling the Airstream, running out of gas and looking out on the horizon seeing only sage brush and a few cactus! It is an important consideration, even calculating EXTRA for potential headwind. You may not expect it just like a dead cow on the side of the road but may experience it firsthand.
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Another thing to remember if you are figuring range when evacuating a hurricane is the amount of time you may be standing still in traffic jams when trying to get out. Extra fuel is never a poor decision. Jim
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I also try to plan our travels around gas stations. I have found that diesel fuel is not readily available at every gas station and almost learnt this the hardway travelling East from Md to Maine. So I have doubled my tank capacity, never go below 1/4 to 1/2 full and will if I think necessary carry an extra 5 gallons in the bed.

I have also found that even if a station has diesel getting in in out with a trailer is not always the easiest thing to do. So when ever possible I look for truck stops to pull into.
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If you are in desperate need of fuel and can't get into a station there are two alternatives to you. Find a place very close to the station and take your empty fuel can to the station a put the five gallons into your tank might give you enough to get to another gas station. You do carry a can don't you? Another idea is unhook the trailer in a parking lot and drive the tow vehicle to get fuel. Jim
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I start looking for diesel when I've got about 100 miles of range left. At 50 miles, I really to worry. Sometimes that leads to bad decisions. We were travelling the back roads in Tennessee last year, and I had passed a few stations because they were on the wrong side of the road, or looked hard to get into or out of. But then they suddenly seemed to disappear. The computer said 40 miles of range left when we finally spotted one in a little town. I had to make a left turn into it, and was already halfway in before I noted the steep incline entering the station and the scrape marks on the road. <horrible sound of scraping metal>

And that's how I wound up buying a new bumper for the AS.
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Refueling: GASOLINE TANK- Half EMPTY or Half FULL?

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Another thing to remember if you are figuring range when evacuating a hurricane is the amount of time you may be standing still in traffic jams when trying to get out. Extra fuel is never a poor decision. Jim

That's 3-5/mpg, regardless of vehicle, on average. Trick here is to trip plan well in advance as to alternate routes. RVs are evacuated earlier than others and afterwards not allowed on road due mainly to being tipped over by winds. That ours pretty well won't is beside the point.

Why I addressed this in my earlier post. One needs 150-miles/range to tow. Or probably 50-gls fuel to reach the magic 150 mile point where fuel is again in reasonable supply.
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I start looking for diesel when I've got about 100 miles of range left. At 50 miles, I really to worry. Sometimes that leads to bad decisions. We were travelling the back roads in Tennessee last year, and I had passed a few stations because they were on the wrong side of the road, or looked hard to get into or out of. But then they suddenly seemed to disappear. The computer said 40 miles of range left when we finally spotted one in a little town. I had to make a left turn into it, and was already halfway in before I noted the steep incline entering the station and the scrape marks on the road. <horrible sound of scraping metal>

And that's how I wound up buying a new bumper for the AS.

Plan fuel stops the day prior. Google maps sat pic. Or, look to the intersections of highways otherwise.
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