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Old 09-03-2005, 05:16 PM   #1
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QUICK!!! Do I dare?

We were scheduled to leve on a trip to norther NH tomorrow. Due to some difficulties here, we will not be able to get gone until Monday, maybe Tuesday.
This is not a life-and-death trip, it is strictly family entertainment and a seminar we count on attending each year.
The Airstream is witing for the coats of Future on the walls and ceilings, and is about as ready as it can be short of the sofa not done and reinstalled. But what the hey! Those papasan chairs of mine are really comfy!
However.... todays headlines read Stations in Midwest Running Out of Gas!
Dropping down I-380 to 80, running east on that to I-94 to east of Battle Creek, then taking I-69 up through Lansing, Flint, and Sarnia.... across Canada on 402, 401, and 20, 10 to 55, 141, back into the states at Stanhope for the last thirty or so miles to Colebrook, NH.
With the headlines, and maybe shortages.... I expect gas to be high.... better than four bucks a gallon. But do we dare leave and expect to find fuel all along our route and back home?
What's your read on the situation? Would you take the chance of being temporarily stranded somewhere along the line? Would you change your route, and if so, to what?

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Old 09-03-2005, 05:40 PM   #2
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Hi, Elizabeth,

I'd say, at least for the U.S. part, go for it. The fuel companies are moving around a lot of gas and creating a lot of confusion and some panic buying, but the real decrease in refining capacity is, according to CNN, only about 10% right now. This means that one station may be out, but the next (more expensive) one, will probably have fuel.


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Old 09-03-2005, 05:48 PM   #3
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Well if you run low on gas you have someplace nice to stay until the next fuel deliverly.
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Old 09-03-2005, 06:01 PM   #4
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That is the route we took to Vermont for the rally there two years ago. Nice easy but long two day run. My feelings there will be gas but if you have a truck and some metal gas cans I might take along an extra ten gallons just in case. That is what we did in the 70's when they had the really big gas crunch and we took the big van to Virginia.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:49 PM   #5
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The president has signed an order relaxing the EPA formulated gas rules. At this point I think that gas refined for any locale can now be shipped to any point in the U.S.

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Old 09-03-2005, 09:13 PM   #6
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Post Up here in Meeshigan we've got enough gas

Lansing should be ok for a fill up...just don't get gas at the first batch of stations off the exits...
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Old 09-03-2005, 09:33 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Cedars
I expect gas to be high.... better than four bucks a gallon.
My quick calculation is that the increased fuel cost, even at $4.00/gallon, would be something just less than $200 for your round trip.

Airstream Life's Rich Luhr had some thoughts recently on the gas might want to check out his web log:

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Old 09-03-2005, 10:43 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by jcanavera
The president has signed an order relaxing the EPA formulated gas rules. At this point I think that gas refined for any locale can now be shipped to any point in the U.S.

Yep, and the pipelines are starting to pump at higher capacities again. I haven't seen any shortages in MI, but lines of people trying to create a shortage by filling up when they hit 3/4 of a tank. Prices yesterday were $3.15+, today they are below $3.00 a gallon. It will cost more, but I don't think you will find many stations without gas.
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Old 09-04-2005, 04:31 AM   #9
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I am down in Mobile, AL ;one of the areas that got brushed by the storm. There have been gas lines down here but they have been hit or miss. Most of them were caused by so many stations not having power and the ability to pump gas, as well as the influx of refugees from MS and LA. FWIW I have a friend who manages a couple of Hess stations in NC. She said on Wednesday of this past week, one of their big stations sold over 18,000 gallons of gas in a 24 hour period. The normal/average daily volume for that stations is typically 7-8,000 a day. If that ain't panic buying I don't know what is! I got gas last night and there were only 3 cars in line a head of me...Take a couple cans along just to be on the safe side and have fun!

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Old 09-04-2005, 05:40 AM   #10
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Cedars, we are in the same boat as you. My wife and I are leaving Tuesday for a 5000 mile trip. We have planned this trip for a year and have thought about the gas situation since it started. After listening to the news and watching traffic patterns, we decided that the media is creating news that sounds more desperate than it is. We decided to go for it. We are driving from North Carolina to the Grand Canyon via I-40 then back along I-70 to Indianapolis to see my folks. We are stopping at each state for 2 days and plan to take 30 days to complete the trip. If we run short of gas, we decided we would camp out longer. To heck with gas prices, we aren't going to let it stop something we planned for so long.
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Old 09-04-2005, 06:32 AM   #11
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Not experienced since I was a kid

My folks used to pack me and my siblings up for very long hauls during the 70s, but they put it on hold during the oil crisis.

My wife and I were out yesterday and the Mobil station was OUT of gas. I have not seen this for some time. The Hess and Sunoco stations were very busy and one little mart had premium gas at 3.85/gallon.

I would say go for your trips, but I would suggest making backup plans for places to stay if you get stuck along the way. Also, carry some type of reserve. If you're out in the middle of Arizona, it's a long way between stations especially if one is out.

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Old 09-04-2005, 07:00 AM   #12
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I'm considering a similar decision. I'm planning to go to Colorado and Nebraska about the middle of September. I've been monitoring the Flying J web site. In addition to gasoline and diesel prices, they list their locations where fuel is low. This morning only locations in the deep south were low. That web site is I'm sure other suppliers have similar sites.

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Old 09-04-2005, 08:01 AM   #13
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Here at US23 and I-96 in SE Michigan there have been no shortages I am aware of. Gas price at stations on the highway exits last night were 3.15 a gallon and 1/2 mile into town several stations were at 2.99. Have a good trip.
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:08 AM   #14
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Gas prices in Nova Scotia have risen from $1.09 a litre last week to $1.49 a litre in some places yesterday.It sounds like they will be coming down shortly.There could be but I have not heard of any shortages anywhere in Canada.


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