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Old 08-18-2013, 03:27 PM   #71
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I'd like to hear more about this. What sort of system do you have for that?
Stephanie, I know you weren't directing your question to me, my post seems to have been lost in the shuffle. I think the best offense is a good defense by prevention. Read my post #39. I am using two simple Microsoft web cams to view the front and back areas of my trailer, combined with 3 Dakota Alert System M-538. There are three sensors, a base station and a portable walki-talki. They have a sensor range from 20 to 80 feet (adjustable) and can be placed up to 4 miles away depending on terrain and obstacles. The walki talki can listen to the monitors and/or communicate with the base station. Having two video feeds on my computer (while still using the internet) is like having guards placed all around your camp. If someone is lurking, its easy to turn lights on, make noise and spoil their would-be surprise advantage

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I've never ever come close to needing violent defense in 20 years of camping. Worst trouble has been drunks. The only use for a gun in my camper would be occasional target shooting in the forest. My dog (German Shorthair) is probably a more effective deterrent.
Kscherzi, I have a German Shorthaired Pointer too. Do you have any pictures?
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I'd like to hear more about this. What sort of system do you have for that?
Not fancy,just Radio Shack portable motion detector.Cat no 49-426.
Some I made mounts for that sit on the table and others are mounted with Velcro.They have off,chime and alarm setting.I use the chime setting because the alarm is on a time delay.
Makes me feel good and they will wake me up when I have the windows open,BUT the dog will bark befor the alarm go off.
This thread has lot of good info on it.
Boy.if your horse aint wanting to go there,neither should you.If you JUST THINK and keep a good look out around you,and take normal precautions you will most likely not get into trouble.It don't take a genius to spot a goat in a flock of sheep.
Remember camping is fun and the biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with watches you shave his face in the mirror every morning.
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Stephanie, I know you weren't directing your question to me, my post seems to have been lost in the shuffle. I think the best offense is a good defense by prevention. Read my post #39. I am using two simple Microsoft web cams to view the front and back areas of my trailer, combined with 3 Dakota Alert System M-538. There are three sensors, a base station and a portable walki-talki. They have a sensor range from 20 to 80 feet (adjustable) and can be placed up to 4 miles away depending on terrain and obstacles. The walki talki can listen to the monitors and/or communicate with the base station. Having two video feeds on my computer (while still using the internet) is like having guards placed all around your camp. If someone is lurking, its easy to turn lights on, make noise and spoil their would-be surprise advantage

Tharon.
This sounds like a fantastic system, But it would be a problem, at least for us , to keep a computer and accessories powered 24/7 while boondocking.

We have had very good luck at home with a Harbor Freight wireless driveway alarm. In fact at times it picks up vehicles or animals a little further away than we like . Battery powered. Never took it camping but have thought about it.

The other thing worth mentioning, is, according to my concealed carry instructor, if you use a gun for self defense you will very likely have to deal with a civil lawsuit. He suggested it is not good to have NRA stickers and you definitely do not want to be displaying something like "Insured by Smith and Wesson".
As many others have said, trust your instincts. We have never had
any problems, however on a couple occasions we elected to move on because something didn't seem quite right.
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You might be surprised at what your old St. Bernard Ben could accomplish if he sensed you were in danger. Remember a dog sees you first and foremost as Mr. Feed Bowl, and nobody messes with Mr. Feed Bowl! They look up to you for many things that they depend on. We might even see Daisy get up off the couch in the right situation. Since my Wife does most of the feeding, our Jimi would probably push me into the line of fire to save the Wife and the dog food till suppertime.
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This works either by regular plug-in or you can use the sensors and listen to the Walki-Talki and not use the base station. Perfect for boondocking. The computer portion of our system is just the cameras we use. They too can be used boondocking if you use a laptop. I only use it 24/7 because that's part of the job I'm doing right now. You could use it only when your in your trailer.
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Interesting, thanks for the descriptions of your various systems. I have to admit we have never felt unsafe while camping, but we don't boondock. But you never know, maybe someday.
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I have small children, they are quick on their feet and make all most no sound. ( when they are trying to be sneaky..). Having a motion sensor would be s great idea just to let you know they are moving about, or going out of the camp.
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When I was a photographer in Washington DC almost every possible thing for personal protection was illegal. i filled one of those lemon juice bottles (shaped like a lemon or lime) with ammonia and carried it in my camera bag or in my car. Still had my cameras stolen once but it came in handy one night when a guy tried to open my car door at a light not far from the White House. I just pointed it at the guy and he took off, must have hated lime juice.
I think the best way to stay out of trouble is to travel with friends and avoid drunks.
I have a CCW but I think a 12 gauge is still the best defensive weapon, legal everywhere in your 'home" (except Canada?) and would be the ideal last resort for protection.
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What about a claw hammer?

Don't know the effectiveness of a claw hammer for ruffians, but I know that aliens (little green ones that is) won't come near a claw hammer. In our pre-dog, pre-Airstream era we had an alien ship that hovered over our tent in the Minnesota North woods. All I had for protection was the claw hammer that I used to drive the tent stakes. I grabbed up that hammer (with optional rubber cushioned handle) and dared those little green buggers to come through that zippered flap. After a few minutes hovering, and some hard thinking they left. That was the night that made me want an Airstream. I had heard somewhere that aliens won't go near Airstreams, don't know if this is fact or fiction, but I do feel an Airstream would beat a tent and a claw hammer. Not sure about Canadian claw hammer laws though.
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Don't know the effectiveness of a claw hammer for ruffians, but I know that aliens (little green ones that is) won't come near a claw hammer. In our pre-dog, pre-Airstream era we had an alien ship that hovered over our tent in the Minnesota North woods. All I had for protection was the claw hammer that I used to drive the tent stakes. I grabbed up that hammer (with optional rubber cushioned handle) and dared those little green buggers to come through that zippered flap. After a few minutes hovering, and some hard thinking they left. That was the night that made me want an Airstream. I had heard somewhere that aliens won't go near Airstreams, don't know if this is fact or fiction, but I do feel an Airstream would beat a tent and a claw hammer. Not sure about Canadian claw hammer laws though.
As for the aliens, I suppose it could be argued the Airstream is akin to a really large tinfoil hat. I have found the tinfoil hat to be effective against all sorts of ruffians.

For the other possibilities, I keep a can of wasp spray and a non-lethal "Taser" in the camper.
And also the killer 10 pound Schipperke dog. Don't mess with this little b!tch....
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Does Amazon sell those tinfoil hats, or will I have to build it myself?
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Does Amazon sell those tinfoil hats, or will I have to build it myself?
You're safe. 21' of 1994 vintage aluminium over your head is one heck of a tinfoil hat. No ruffian stands a chance.

And as to the whole discussion here, I honestly feel a good dog really does make a pretty darned good early warning system. Not much is gonna get close to my "schipperke's camper" without her letting me know about it.
It generally just other dogs, squirrels, rabbits or the occasional whistle-pig......but she is on top of all of it. So when she goes to Defcon one...... I pay attention.
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