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Old 08-17-2013, 03:35 PM   #57
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what happens when you spray bear or wasp or mace spray in a trailer? like will the fumes hurt you bad?.
I accidentally dispensed my canister of tear gas when I and it were inside my truck. I would prefer not to do that again. I had to call out for my shift because my eyes and nose were watering so bad I couldn't see.
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If you are not already a gun owner, don't use travel as a reason to become one. I think RV travel is extremely safe by statistics and personal experience. Not having a gun means reducing your chance of gun accidents to zero. An RV is small and basically very secure. Don't over think it, don't become paranoid and create more danger in your trailer with guns than is warranted.

There is also a reverse psychology effect that might ruin travel. If you insist on arming yourself with guns, you will mentally justify that by confirming to yourself that the reason you did it was because travel is dangerous. Once you are convinced travel is dangerous, you will the enjoyment of it. It's a kind of vicious circle.
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How about a sign that reads "Mother in-law On Board"......I'd give that a wide berth, especially if she likes nagging.
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If you are not already a gun owner, don't use travel as a reason to become one. I think RV travel is extremely safe by statistics and personal experience. Not having a gun means reducing your chance of gun accidents to zero. An RV is small and basically very secure. Don't over think it, don't become paranoid and create more danger in your trailer with guns than is warranted.

There is also a reverse psychology effect that might ruin travel. If you insist on arming yourself with guns, you will mentally justify that by confirming to yourself that the reason you did it was because travel is dangerous. Once you are convinced travel is dangerous, you will the enjoyment of it. It's a kind of vicious circle.
I can think of no good reason not to become a gun owner. Travel is as good a reason as any. Make sure you get training for whatever firearm you are using and go to a gun range very often and practice,practice, practice.The more you have the gun in your hand the more proficient you will become with and the safer you will be with it.Did I mention practice? Get the point?
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I can think of no good reason not to become a gun owner.
I can. And it's right in the next quote.
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...go to a gun range very often and practice,practice, practice.The more you have the gun in your hand the more proficient you will become with and the safer you will be with it.Did I mention practice? Get the point?
I can't imagine anything more boring than endlessly shooting a gun as mentioned here.

But hey, that's what makes the world go 'round right? Some people will spend all their free time shooting off a gun, others might read, others might enjoy spending all that time with a camera or paintbrush in their hand. Practice, practice, practice! Get the point?
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A buddy of mine is a state trooper. We Discussing shooting under stress. He stated that when in a stressful situation people's accuracy quickly drops below 50%. And this is even for trained shooters.

I would think Just a NRA sticker and another pro-gun sticker right by the front door the trailer would be more than enough of a deterrent.
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I can think of many. One is that you're more likely to get killed by a gun if you own a gun.
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A buddy of mine is a state trooper. We Discussing shooting under stress. He stated that when in a stressful situation people's accuracy quickly drops below 50%. And this is even for trained shooters.
Your friend is 100% correct, even for cops and soldiers. No amount of shooting range training can prepare you for armed conflict. Few things scare me more than gun owners who think they're prepared for anything.

As I've said above, my wife used to be a competitive target shooter. The amount of concentration required for that sport is nothing but impressive. She used to be able to reduce her pulse to 50 and shoot between two heartbeats.

But drop a pin behind her, and she'd miss.
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I would think Just a NRA sticker and another pro-gun sticker right by the front door the trailer would be more than enough of a deterrent.
Stickers like that have a way of making a very big statement about the occupant, and about the risks associated with being near that trailer. Although it may be a deterrent to some people of ill will, it may very well also be a deterrent to others with friendly intentions who simply don't want to expose themselves to the many gun dangers. Something to think about before putting that kind of sticker up.
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(1) I have boondocked by myself in lots of places in the west and NEVER have had a problem
(2) BUT when you have a AS many folks good and bad think you have money so this can make you a target for the bad guys.
(3) Guns have been covered well here so no need to talk about that.YES I am a red neck with guns, guts and a bible and I can and will use any and all of them if needed.
(4) The best advice given here choose your campsite well and to your confort zone.
(5) Keep an eye on your surrownding.This is one most folks fail to do.
(6) If it dont seem right most likely it isnt.DO NOT BEFRIEND folks that may come to you for false help,(Want to use your phone,car broke down need money,out of gas,need food ect)This type has killed campers in AZ
(7) Dog is your best alarm I have a small one that will let me know when ANY thing is around.Man or beast.If a dog is barking at you,he's not biting you.If he is biting you,then he's not barking at you.
(8)I also but out motion sensors that will let me know if something is around.Most of the times when they go of it is a bear,deer or skunk the 4 legged kind.
If you just make being on the look out away of life you can go out camping and have fun doing it with out worrying your self about what if.A good sense of humor is your best protection in this insane world.
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Reading the Wal-Mart camping thread raised another question for me. What are group members thoughts on having some sort of protection on board? Dog/gun/mace/etc?

I have never owned a gun, but have shot a couple of rifles in my life. Not too crazy about being around one. Traveling alone it is something to give thought to.

Ben has a big bark but does not use it often and once your are within a few feet he suddenly loves you. Of course we have never been in the company of someone with intent to harm, not sure what he would do then.

I would appreciate thoughts.
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(8)I also but out motion sensors that will let me know if something is around.Most of the times when they go of it is a bear,deer or skunk the 4 legged kind.

I'd like to hear more about this. What sort of system do you have for that?
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I've never ever come close to needing violent defense in 20 years of camping. Worst trouble has been drunks. The only use for a gun in my camper would be occasional target shooting in the forest. My dog (German Shorthair) is probably a more effective deterrent.
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Here's a thought...electrify the Airstream skin. That would keep the ruffians at bay!
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