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01-21-2016, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 26
Morrill
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Looks to me like you are planning on averaging between 65 and 70 MPH. When do you plan to eat and pee? Let alone fuel up.
Sure hope you don't have ST tires on your coach.
What are your plans for bad weather, road construction etc?
We don't drive in excess of 65MPH. We plan on average 40MPH which includes all stops for food, fuel and restroom. 14 to 16 hours on the road is way more than we would enjoy.
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01-21-2016, 06:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
, Massachusetts
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On our way home from WY to MA we drove for a day and made just 400 miles. We both said, "We gotta get home!!!!"
So from eastern WY to MA we made it in two 1000 mile days, back to back, driving 2 shifts. Crazy. But so are we.
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01-21-2016, 07:03 PM
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Full time Airstreamer
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Anywhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted S.
On our way home from WY to MA we drove for a day and made just 400 miles. We both said, "We gotta get home!!!!"
So from eastern WY to MA we made it in two 1000 mile days, back to back, driving 2 shifts. Crazy. But so are we.
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Was there a 5 year old with you?
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01-21-2016, 08:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
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Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
Was there a 5 year old with you?
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Nope. I flew my wife and girls (ages 18, 9 and 4) from Jackson Hole to Boston, then me and the 22 year old boy gunned it and I actually lied, we didn't do 2000 miles in two days, we did 1954 miles in two days (just googled it) from Vedauwoo Campground, Buford, WY to Ayer, MA.
The funny thing is, we actually enjoyed it. You haven't lived until you've had a drop of whiskey camped out in a Cracker Barrel parking lot while driving across the country.
Boys will be boys.
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01-21-2016, 08:41 PM
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#45
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
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We can offer a different perspective. Haul tail out there and make a day trip thru Yellowstone and see the mud pots, geysers and other thermal stuff that is specific to that area, then get the heck out. No disrespect intended but there are way to many people in the park. Head south to the Tetons where there are more wildlife viewing chances, stunning views, open camp sites and less people. Hiking is great also.
Then decide an interesting route home for drive-thru scenery.
We do this every other year (except the Yellowstone day trip, been there, done that) and its a 16 day, 4200 mile adventure.
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01-21-2016, 08:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2013
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I agree, see Yellowstone but the Tetons are more fun, if you are outdoorsy...
We did pack into Yellowstone for 4 days, that was spectacular. Didn't see a soul.
When we do it again, I would spend more time in the Bighorns and do a good hike through Wind River.
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01-21-2016, 10:42 PM
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Rivet Master
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Walnut Creek
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OK - if you are travelers, you may be able to pull it off with careful planning. You will be tired when you get home.
Note, 3 weeks is not 21 days, it is 23 days and if you are ready to leave, you can put in a good 8 hours after work on Friday, which makes your run 24 days. At 500 miles a day, that is 6000 miles in 12 days. With another 12 days to have fun.
The Grand Canyon takes a day. Utah and Zion takes 2 days. Yellowstone takes 3 days. Glacier takes a day. Mt Rushmore takes a day. And 4 days for other destinations.
We want to see lots of pictures, but if you get too tired, cut off part of the trip and come home. Safe Travels. Pat
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01-21-2016, 11:29 PM
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Len and Jeanne
2005 16' International CCD
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Creston Valley
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jun 2012
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The time required to "do" a park depends upon what you like to do-- or can do. The only way to breeze through a big park like Glacier in a day is to hardly get out of your vehicle, and hardly get your vehicle off the main road. You cannot take trailers over Going-to-the-Sun road, so you have to allow time to take just your tow vehicle or, even better, one of the free park shuttle buses or concession (fee) "red cars." We really like the area around Bowman and Kintla Lakes, which is easily a one-day trip in itself. Ditto for the Many Glaciers and Two Medicine lake areas.
Then even short walks allow you to experience so much more. We take our canoe to parks with lakes like Glacier, Tetons, and Yellowstone-- there is some wonderful scenic paddling for people with small boats.
There are also scenic boat tours on some of the lakes for an interesting and different way to explore the park, not to mention horseback riding concessions for the adventuresome. All of the parks have short naturalist-guided walks and evening programs. It is also fun to have a meal at one of the grand old national park lodges.
You pretty much have to walk on paths and board walks at Yellowstone to see the main thermal and other scenic features. They are not all adjacent to the parking lots. (Old Faithful doesn't require much of a walk, but then you can take some interesting short trails that lead from it.)
During our 2015 visit to Yellowstone, we stopped for a picnic near Yellowstone Lake, and were greeted by several nearly-tame female elks with calves walking through the picnic area. This was not an experience to end quickly merely to get to the next overlook.
Understandably people with limited mobility have to stay closer to the roads, but simply pulling over to a scenic overlook for a snapshot of a place you did not really experience is not the ideal way to visit the parks.
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01-22-2016, 05:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
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I have a contrary opinion of Teton vs Yellowstone.
Tetons are lovely to be sure. Beautiful views.
But
Yellowstone is like no place else on earth.
There are lots of lovely mountains and lakes and meadows around.
But only 1 place I have ever been to with mud pots and geysers and black sand and buffalo and thermal pools and on and on.
I could stay a month in Yellowstone, but I really find the Tetons a bit boring after a few days. And to be honest I probably prefer Colorado to the Tetons.
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01-22-2016, 10:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1966 24' Tradewind
2005 22' Safari
Bastrop
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If you can make reservations at the campground at the fishing bridge in Yellowstone go ahead and do it . Will be a handy spot in the park for plenty of day trips throughout the park. They do have water and dump station there , even if the sites do not . You will not need your AC as it is relativity cool in the day and cold at night in August . If you don't stay a week in this beautiful park you will regret it . Have been going there since back in 1960 and can't get enough of it .
Be sure to take in Cody , Cooke City , and West Yellowstone !
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01-22-2016, 11:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2008 19' Bambi
2012 23' Flying Cloud
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Bandera
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You are going places still on my list. But we learned over the past two years in trips to the Grand Canyon , Arches and Canyonlands, get those reservations done early! Enjoy.
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01-22-2016, 11:34 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Stowe
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We travel west from VT almost every year. Yellowstone & Tetons are constant repeats for us. Here's the deal. Be ready for some serious drive days, preferably with 2 drivers sharing. Day 1- 670 miles (basically on I-90) VT to Ohio Turnpike Middle Ridge Travel Plaza, Amherst, OH - has RV parking w. electric for $20. Day 2 640 miles (still I-90) Ohio to Onalaska, Wisc. Walmart right off highway (free) Go WAY around Chicago on interstates - not thru. Day 3 - 580 miles (I-90) to Wall, SD, Sleepy Hollow Campground $30 w. hookups (or go to Badlands just before Wall - camp there for cheap - no hookups - spend at least a day and night there. Do ranger led programs. As a matter of fact, they are great at all the parks.) Day 4 (from Wall) 441 miles - to Cody, WY - I-90, get off in Buffalo, WY and take Rt. 16 over the Big Horns. Stock-up on supplies in Cody. Absaroka Bay Campground - $30-ish. Drain your tanks - fill your water. Day 5 - 80 miles to Yellowstone Fishing Bridge RV Park - call for reservations NOW. This is the only campground in the park w. hookups (if you like them) - Be sure to hike Mt. Washburn; do Old Faithful trails; hike and explore Lamar Valley; take your time - spend days there. NEXT - Drive south to Grand Tetons - Colter Bay RV Park has full hook-ups - reserve NOW. (Good idea to get a National Parks yearly pass at the first national park that you visit - save big bucks - or best deal if you're a senior, get a lifetime pass for $10) Spend days here if possible - hike: Cascade Canyon; Death Canyon; Phelps Lake; Rockefeller Preserve; and the list goes on. Visit Jackson Hole - touristy but fun. Raft the Snake River. On the way home do the same routes. When headed to Wall, SD stop for a few hours at Rushmore, and then stop in Wall for the night. Good luck. If you had more time then 3 weeks, I'd give you more info. Carpe Diem. Good luck.
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01-22-2016, 02:42 PM
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#53
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
2014 30' Classic
Princeton
, Iowa
Join Date: Mar 2012
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We are 6 years as Airstreamers, but are 73 yrs. old. We have been to all of these places and they are all great. First the trip must be fun and you need confidence you will have time to see them all in your life time. So do your own reasearch and pick out what does the most for you, but do not hurry. At 73 we follow the 200 2 rule. Two hundred miles and then 2 days at that location, OK you are younger, but a 400 1.5 rule would be worth considering (400 miles in a day and 1 day half the time and 2 days half the time. The Tetons are fantastic and Custer State Park is wonderful.
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01-22-2016, 03:44 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Keswick
, VA
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I agreed with everyone who says too big an itinerary and too short a time. Last fall we drove from CNY to Yellowstone. 4 long days of driving I90 and I80 to get to north Yellowstone. We did break it up with 3 days in the Badlands, 3 days in the Black Hills and a nice hot day at Little Big Horn battlefield. Then spent a week in Yellowstone. Slow down. Pick one or two spots you really want to see and concentrate on them. If you have time then you can move on. Even in September and October it was near impossible to find accommodations in the NP's. August, well you better be making the reservations now. Have fun. It's a BIG beautiful country. Plan well and enjoy.
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01-22-2016, 06:08 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Walnut Creek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Len n Jeanne
The time required to "do" a park depends upon what you like to do-- snip --- but simply pulling over to a scenic overlook for a snapshot of a place you did not really experience is not the ideal way to visit the parks.
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L&J are right. It depends. For us, the overlooks and pullouts work. We also get wonderful views while driving. It does not take long to see what we want to enjoy and move on to make the next fantastic memory. However, the rangers say you can not experience all of Yellowstone in a lifetime. That is likely true with most NPs. Your time is limited so make the most of it by doing what makes you smile.
Good luck with your trip planning. Pat
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01-23-2016, 07:08 AM
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#56
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
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I plan on taking at least a couple of months for my western adventure. What is the general consensus about the best time of the year for a trip to New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, etc? I have no desire or intention to reurn to California if at all possible.
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01-23-2016, 07:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 16' International CCD
Vintage Kin Owner
Somewhere
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In my mind, there is no question: September and October.
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01-23-2016, 08:22 AM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
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Best times for AZ Dec-Mar
Best times for UT Apr-Jun
Best times for CO Jun-Oct
Best times for NM Sept-Nov
Then start allover again
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01-23-2016, 09:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Mojo, not quite at the point where I can do that plan. Shoulder season of Sept/Oct might work out better.
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01-23-2016, 09:23 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Olympia
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2015
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Originally Posted by Piggy Bank
Also agree that right now is not too soon to get reservations. I have had our reservations for Yellowstone campground (in the park) for several months now.
The national park service has a lot of good info.
Also do remember if you have not had much time driving in the mountains, that the speed limit is much lower due to all of the turns and hills, and that you may encounter stoppages due to single lane roads where traffic, Literally, stops to look at wildlife.
Maximum speed (i.e. top speed) is 45 MPH, so this can make you average speed about half as high as highway speed.
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Some years ago, I began my "summer" vacation the week after Labor Day. By the time I got to the entrance to Yellowstone & needed gas, I was the only car in the 96-pump gas station. I asked the attendant "Why the 96 pumps?" He said that only a week ago, there was a line to the gas station for gas, & that after Labor Day, they might as well close for lack of customers.
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