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Old 03-03-2015, 11:18 AM   #43
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There is already a law like that. Unless there is signage or traffic lights to indicate otherwise, a person already in a traffic lane has the right of way over someone entering or crossing the lane.
Hey, Protag... oh, yessir, I was/am aware of that law. What it 'fails' to do is define is how far the 'lane posession' extends!

I hit someone from behind in a situation much like this... I was in the left lane.. overtaking someone in the right lane. A car pulled out from side business exit (by Lafayette Airport on HWY 90)... then immediately pulled into the left lane, in front of me, stopping.... no signal.. I was going about 50 (speed limit was 70)...

I was ticketed.
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Old 03-03-2015, 11:38 AM   #44
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Many feel that if they put their turn signal on it gives them the right to the lane and anyone in that lane must adjust to them to give them room. Totally wrong and dangerous and rudely aggressive. The VW would have been too close to the car in front. All the driver had to do was slow down and stay behind the truck on the right.
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Something that helps me is a Voyager wifi back up camera on the FC. I keep it on with the sound turned off when I drive. When you pass someone you can follow them move out of the line of sight before moving back over. More importantly, the motorcycle or idiot that wants to pass you on the right because you aren't fast enough are very visable. And you can also see someone "hiding" right on the AS bumper.
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I hit someone from behind in a situation much like this... I was in the left lane.. overtaking someone in the right lane. A car pulled out from side business exit (by Lafayette Airport on HWY 90)... then immediately pulled into the left lane, in front of me, stopping.... no signal.. I was going about 50 (speed limit was 70)...

I was ticketed.
When it happened to me, the other guy was ticketed for "failure to yield" and "improper lane change." I was ticketed for "failure to maintain proper vigilance" which is cop-speak for "You didn't react quick enough to avoid the accident."
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:16 PM   #47
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Drive Chicago area & St louis area you will see about mergers that turn signals on, you yield to them or they will hit you, most have junk cars & no insurance as laws don't apply to them. Pulling 31' AS or 18 wheeler you tend to be aware of this. Il also left hand lane riders worst state I have been in.
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:37 PM   #48
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Wisconsin is worse for left lane riders
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Old 03-03-2015, 12:52 PM   #49
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I don't believe the mirrors are to blame. If you wait until you see the entire front of the vehicle (both headlights) you are passing to move back over, that will be plenty of space. The people that cut across too soon are just rude and disrespectful- especially the ones that are already moving into your lane (sharing the lane) while they are still beside you- haven't even cleared your bumper- come within inches of your bumper- It is not an issue of your speed. They do it to me whether I'm going 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70- you get the idea. My speed has nothing to do with it. They aren't just mad at me. They're mad at the whole world or just oblivious. The have no regard for their own lives (health, safety) or their own property. Why should they have any regard or respect for your life, health, or property? I think in our increasingly entitlement mentality society that people are unaware of the value of a dollar or lack a work ethic and don't understand what it is to work and earn something. We take care of our stuff because we worked so hard to earn it. That aspect is missing in today's society.
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Old 03-03-2015, 01:56 PM   #51
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Well, one thing for sure, the driver of the vw had to talk to the cop with a full diaper!
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Old 03-03-2015, 03:23 PM   #52
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"m.hony They do it to me whether I'm going 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70- you get the idea." Post #49
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If the speed limit is 75mph and you are going 85mph... you will have tailgaters and those wanting to pass whenever there is a trailer in tow in front of them.

The speed limit could be 45mph, you are doing 45mph to 50mph and you will have tailgaters and those wanting to pass you. At 60... 70... the speed limit is not the problem.

- I have driven the empty highways of Nebraska, Central Kansas, Wyoming, Eastern Colorado and notice a human quirk during the day, although especially at night. I-70 & I-80 is flat and mostly straight for several hundred miles in some of these States. When a moving object on the highway is seen in the far distance, the vehicle behind this vehicle will "catch up to it". Often, once they have caught up they will remain behind you and not pass. At night it is tough, as these driver's do not dim their headlights. Maybe others following this Thread have noticed this. Even if you slow down to help them decide to pass and keep going, they do not. If they do, they will reduce their speed with nobody on the horizon and you have to slow down or pass them.

- Having a trailer in tow is much similar, but no matter your speed they want to pass. YOU are an obstacle and they cannot see the road in the distance, only the shiny posterior and bumper of your Airstream or SOB. As they begin to pass they... slow down, realizing they are going 80mph to pass a vehicle going 65 to 70mph. And hang in your right side "blind spot" or slowly pass and cut in front of you to keep THEIR speed down.

This is not 100% but maybe 20% of drivers on the road. Truck drivers understand how the UP and Down speeds work like we do. People pulling a UHaul cannot judge speed nor distances. Watch out for them...

Just be aware that you are dealing with the driving public. Most have good judgment. Some never had any judgment or "common sense". Insurance adjusters know who those people are by their accidents. Some individuals are just... evil. They resent your having a trailer, a late model truck, a beautiful wife or your license plate. Just IGNORE and reduce speed to let them ride off into the sunset and with luck, they will end up rolled in a ditch not hurting anyone, but themselves.

Many of you will see the aggressive driver in City Traffic. You say to yourself "where is a COP when you need one?" This is when the police with unmarked vehicles catch them sometimes. Eventually these people will create mayhem. It is amazing how polite and speed conscious drivers are with a Highway Patrol riding the passing lane, or not.

Just do not let YOURSELF get into a situation where you are now a target. Road Raging events are rare, but you read about them in the local paper. Yes... the guy or carload of guys were creating a situation that you were able to avoid... just take a breath, relax and get over it. It is NOT YOUR JOB to protect the highways. Eventually these people get their justice. Just do not let it become your life's ambition to do the enforcement. Get a plate number, description of the vehicle and make it known to whatever local patrol answer... their radio can contact a Highway Patrol ahead and be waiting to catch this guy so he can "have a nice day".

I have been passed on I-80 with a guy sticking his bare MOON out the window as they roared west into Laramie, Wyoming.

I have passed an RV going 30mph on a two lane road with a 65mph speed limit in New Mexico and when I began to pass with our 23 foot Airstream in tow... For this RV driver, it became a RACE and I could not return back into my lane. California plate on the vehicle being towed behind, no phone service... This could have been fatal... for ME. I managed to get back into the right lane... and let it go. There are CRAZY people. Just do not let if be YOU.

I have been driving since I was 15 and I am now 65. Years, not mph. These events are RARE, but you must be thinking clear in a situation. I do not want to add to my short list of Nuts and Idiots seen in traffic. Drunks... just avoid them, report them or keep your distance but do not lose sight of them. You will experience a Drunk weaving more than the Road Raging Hominoid.

Bikers are aware of those who... hate motorcycles. ... and I need to cut this short and leave the rest up to others for advice.
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Possibly my favorite near-miss of all time, personally witnessed near Lake Providence on US65 in November 2013

I was southbound, on a two-lane section of highway with yellow "No Passing" stripes down the center. Ahead of me, a driver decided to ignore the No Passing zone and pass the vehicle ahead of him; only to find another driver northbound doing exactly the same thing! It looked like it was going to be side-by-side head-on collisions, so I started slowing to a crawl just in case.

To my surprise, both southbound drivers took to the ditch while both northbound drivers kept coming. Good thing I slowed down when I did, or the northbound passer who ran the southbound non-passing driver off the road would have hit me! But since I slowed down so much, the northbound passer had room to cut back into the proper lane with a whisker's clearance between his front bumper and my front bumper, and between his rear bumper and the passee's front bumper.

I had to pull over to the shoulder and wait about half an hour before I got over the shakes so that I could continue on my way! Coming down off an adrenaline high is no fun, but I'm very proud that I did not stain my britches from that near miss.
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Old 03-03-2015, 06:27 PM   #55
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My favorite incident

Here's an experience from me. I used to be a UPS driver. Every day at lunch I pulled into the outermost area of the parking lot to eat lunch and relax for a while. I always stayed away from the busy areas so I didn't take up needed parking spaces or block lanes.

One day I'm enjoying the spring weather, sitting in the driver's seat, my feet propped up with sandwich in hand. I watched a car coming diagonally across the lot, 2 women in front chatting away. The driver didn't seem to be paying attention and kept coming right at my parked truck. I got ready to abandon ship, should the need arise.

She kept getting closer, now I'm curious as well as worried. At almost the point of no return, the driver finally looks up and sees my truck. She slams on her brakes, blows her horn and shakes her fist at me as she finally changes her course.

It was an interesting lunch, better than most.
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Another quirk about uneducated/untrained drivers (maybe some of them don't have a drivers license or insurance):
They "wolf pack" and are just a few feet from the car in front will going 75 mph or faster- if one guy has to brake suddenly, there will be a major pile-up-
I try to always drive alone- I never want anyone beside me- especially on a bridge-
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